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1. 07:07 AM - Canopy weather stripping (dgardea(at)gmail.com)
2. 07:35 AM - Re: Canopy weather stripping (Bryan Martin)
3. 02:18 PM - Canopy vents (lwinger)
4. 02:35 PM - Re: Canopy vents (Gig Giacona)
5. 03:18 PM - Re: Canopy vents (Bryan Martin)
6. 04:37 PM - Re: Canopy vents (Rick Lindstrom)
7. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (Bill Pagan)
8. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (jaybannist@cs.com)
9. 05:33 PM - Re: Canopy vents (Leo Gates)
10. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (Rick Lindstrom)
11. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (Bryan Martin)
12. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (Craig Payne)
13. 09:05 PM - Re: Canopy vents (lwinger)
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| Subject: | Canopy weather stripping |
When placing .016 or other flashing against the canopy acrylic, what have you all
used to seal that gap against the elements? For example, have you used silicone
or other sealant from a tube or have you found any weatherstripping that
fits in there nicely with the edge of the aluminum flashing? On the rear bubble
of my CH 650 canopy, for example, I have cut some side flashing that will follow
the curve of the acrylic from the rear deck to the longerons .. see the attached
picture. I'd like to take the best steps toward keeping moisture out the
baggage deck and reduce wind noise from any gap there. Please let me know what
solutions you folks have found that works best for you! Thanks in advance
for your help.
Dave Gardea
601XL - CH 650 canopy in progress - Corvair
Indianapolis, IN
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wings done - working on corvair and fuselage kit
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy weather stripping |
I used some 3M automotive double sided foam tape on the front
flashing. It worked really well. This is the gray tape used to attach
rubber moldings to cars. I have also used it to attach a set of small
fog lights to the plastic trim on the front bumper of my old Ford
truck. They stayed put for four years and 68,000 miles and were still
holding on when I sold the truck. Strangely enough, the tape is also
fairly easy to remove if you need to. I put a strip across the top and
bottom of the flashing.
On the side flashing, I used some sort of rubber strip intended for
installing storm door windows. It was ribbed in the area that was
intended to go between the glass and the frame and had a cap set at an
angle to seal the corner. I had to trim off part of the cap that was
overhanging the aluminum flashing. This turned out pretty well also.
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:06 AM, dgardea(at)gmail.com wrote:
> >
>
> When placing .016 or other flashing against the canopy acrylic, what
> have you all used to seal that gap against the elements? For
> example, have you used silicone or other sealant from a tube or have
> you found any weatherstripping that fits in there nicely with the
> edge of the aluminum flashing? On the rear bubble of my CH 650
> canopy, for example, I have cut some side flashing that will follow
> the curve of the acrylic from the rear deck to the longerons .. see
> the attached picture. I'd like to take the best steps toward keeping
> moisture out the baggage deck and reduce wind noise from any gap
> there. Please let me know what solutions you folks have found that
> works best for you! Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Dave Gardea
> 601XL - CH 650 canopy in progress - Corvair
> Indianapolis, IN
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
Thanks.
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Fuselage on gear
Canopy nearly complete
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
I have a pair of eyeball vents installed in the panel connected to the
NACA vents on the side of the canopy. They help some but didn't
provide enough cooling on hot sunny days. I installed a pair of Vista
Vents from ACS last summer and these work really well. I still have to
prop the canopy open while taxiing. I also have a Koger sunshade
installed that helps shield the cabin from the sun.
On Aug 12, 2009, at 4:15 PM, lwinger wrote:
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> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> Larry Winger
> Tustin, CA
> Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
> Fuselage on gear
> Canopy nearly complete
> www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Hi, Larry.
Rich Vetterli used some really nice, large round vents in his canopy that not only
snap out into the airstream, but also covered up a canopy crack quite nicely!
I don't have a picture handy in the archive, but I'll keep looking. I think
he got them from ACS.
I'm using a pair of the really nice Aveo ball vents that fit neatly right in the
outlet of the NACA duct. The 1.75" inch sleeve size is almost a perfect fit,
it nests right in without need of much of a shim. A layer or two of gaffer's
tape sealed them up well.
Rick Lindstrom
-----Original Message-----
>From: lwinger <larrywinger@gmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2009 2:15 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy vents
>
>
>What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
>Thanks.
>
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>Larry Winger
>Tustin, CA
>Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
>Fuselage on gear
>Canopy nearly complete
>www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=257352#257352
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents?- Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Bill,
I cut the hole with a Dremel.? It was fitted with a special Dremel attachment that
has a center point and mounts the Dremel and cutter at a specific radius (Dremel
part no. 678-01 Circle Cutter & Straight Edge Guide) The cutter was a tiny
drum with spiral cutting edges.? I think the cutter is bit no. 194.? Worked
like a charm !
I used this same bit to do a whole lot of detailed aluminum cutting.? It will also
work on thin steel, but wears out rather quickly.
Jay Bannister
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents?? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Larry,
I used two Plastic Eyeball Air Vents from ACS, $17.95 each in gray,
black, white or beige. These are connected to NACA vents on the side of
the fuselage, per ZAC, and connected via scat tubing. I installed a 120
mm square 12 volt muffin/exhaust fan, with a metal finger guard on the
rear of the baggage compartment. The muffin fan is p/n
707-GDA1238-12BB, cost is $20.12, Finger Guard is p/n 5912-LZ30, cost
$5.55 from Mouser Electronics, www.mouser.com.
I live in South Texas, 20 miles from San Antonio, so have several HOT
summers proof of concept experience.
Before engine start, canopy closed, turn on muffin/exhaust fan and point
left eye ball vent at my face. Slight breeze. Start engine, air is
now blowing nicely on my face/upper body. The air blowing on my face is
probably 95 - 100 degrees but it still cools. End of climb check list
has: Turn off exhaust fan. Before landing checklist has: Turn on
exhaust fan.
Leo Gates
N601Z
CH601HDS TDO
lwinger wrote:
>
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Larry Winger
> Tustin, CA
> Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
> Fuselage on gear
> Canopy nearly complete
> www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Rich used a standard hole saw gently turned (slowly) by hand on warmed up plex,
attacking it from both sides. It took awhile, but the results were pretty good.
Rick Lindstrom
----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pagan
Sent: Aug 12, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
I used a circle cutter like this: http://www.amazon.com/General-Hardware-1-3-Hole-Cutter/dp/B00004T7P1
These are also available at Home depot and Aircraft Spruce.
I have it chucked into a hand brace and turned it very carefully. I
started on one side of the plexiglas and cut part way through and
switched to the other side to finish it off. I did this on a warm day.
On Aug 12, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Bill Pagan wrote:
> What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
>
> Bill Pagan
> EAA Tech Counselor #4395
> 601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
>
>
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
I saw Doug Dugger of Quality Sport Planes do the same in his XL canopy with the
snap vent (). He lubes the cutter with WD-40 as I recall. Spruce p/n CC3251 or
05-01179.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lindstrom
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
Rich used a standard hole saw gently turned (slowly) by hand on warmed up plex,
attacking it from both sides. It took awhile, but the results were pretty good.
Rick Lindstrom
----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pagan
Sent: Aug 12, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Thanks for all the great input and practical ideas!
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Fuselage on gear
Canopy nearly complete
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
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