---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/26/09: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:17 AM - Looking for a Prop Extension Flange for a 3300 (Jeffrey J Paris) 2. 05:27 AM - Re: Looking for a Prop Extension Flange for a 3300 (Paul Mulwitz) 3. 09:35 AM - Re: Al Beyers (MHerder) 4. 02:45 PM - Another 601XL for sale (Richard Vetterli) 5. 02:56 PM - Re: Another 601XL for sale (LHusky@aol.com) 6. 03:26 PM - Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) (Carlos Sa) 7. 05:21 PM - Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) (mosquito56) 8. 05:26 PM - Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (mosquito56) 9. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) (Craig Payne) 10. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) (Paul Mulwitz) 11. 09:45 PM - Re: priming with zinc chromate? And order of build? (mosquito56) 12. 09:49 PM - Installing the torqe tube for the flaps on the 601xl (mosquito56) 13. 10:09 PM - Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (Thruster87) 14. 10:46 PM - Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (mosquito56) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:14 AM PST US From: "Jeffrey J Paris" Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for a Prop Extension Flange for a 3300 Dear Purveyors of all this Jabiru: I am in search of a Prop extension flange for a Jab3300, does anyone have on e for sale? Cheers, Jeff Paris #A012 Europa Classic 1900+ hours in to the build ...it's getting close! Flying Zenith Zodiac-CH601xl 260 HOURS OF PURE FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------ Supplements Shop & save on the supplements you want. Click now! http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1g4c6sc4HPOXot3EwdNYh4D1C7ZgIKR8mRqX6djl1N obPCFZ6VqLBW/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:28 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Looking for a Prop Extension Flange for a 3300 Hi Jeff, I think this is an option ordered with new engines destined for Zodiacs and other planes. You can probably get one new from either the factory or Jabiru USA (Pete Krotge). Good luck, Paul XL awaiting engineering changes At 05:13 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote: >I am in search of a Prop extension flange for a Jab3300, does anyone >have one for sale? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:38 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Al Beyers From: "MHerder" Anyone have a good contact for Al Beyers. I remember seeing his super sharp HDS a couple years ago at Osh and wanted to try and figure out what his HDS with a 3300 came out with for empty weight. Thanks for any help. -------- One Rivet at a Time! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259727#259727 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:30 PM PST US From: Richard Vetterli Subject: Zenith-List: Another 601XL for sale Another 601XL is listed for sale on Barnstormers. Sadly, it's mine. After five years of building, a sudden job change has forced me to sell my completed airplane before I get a chance to fly it. The plane is complete, registered and only a few hours away from being ready for airworthiness inspection. Check out Barnstormers or my building blog www.geocities.com/stixx5a)for photos and info or e-mail me off-list. What a great project. If you're building, don't give up. Rich Vetterli Pleasanton, CA ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:18 PM PST US From: LHusky@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another 601XL for sale Rich, I am sorry to hear your selling your plane. Looks really nice. I remember going to CC in Livermore with you. Hope things work out for you. Larry Husky Madras, Oregon In a message dated 8/26/2009 2:51:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, richve tterli@yahoo.com writes: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Richard Vetterli Another 601XL is listed for sale on Barnstormers. Sadly, it's mine. After five years of building, a sudden job change has forced me to sell my completed airplane before I get a chance to fly it. The plane is complete, registered and only a few hours away from being ready for airworthiness inspection. Check out Barnstormers or my building blog www.geocities.com/stixx5a)for photos and info or e-mail me off-list. What a great project. If you're building, don't give up. Rich Vetterli Pleasanton, CA ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another 601XL for sale (off list) From: Carlos Sa Rich, it's a beautiful Zodie. Look at the bright side: When the storm passes, you will be able to build another one in half the time... ;-) Best of luck ! Carlos CH601-HD, plans 2009/8/26 Richard Vetterli > richvetterli@yahoo.com> > > Another 601XL is listed for sale on Barnstormers. Sadly, it's mine. After > five years of building, a sudden job change has forced me to sell my > completed airplane before I get a chance to fly it. The plane is complete, > registered and only a few hours away from being ready for airworthiness > inspection. Check out Barnstormers or my building blog > www.geocities.com/stixx5a)for photos and info or e-mail me off-list. > What a great project. If you're building, don't give up. > Rich Vetterli > Pleasanton, CA > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:56 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) From: "mosquito56" I am curious how I can buy a plane that is "A few hours from air worthiness inspection." Doesn't the 51% rule come into effect? I don't want to seem rude, I really am curious on how to do this as my plane is about %80 done and I thought I couldn't sell it until it was done with the first 50 hrs? -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259838#259838 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:42 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. From: "mosquito56" I purchased a kit that the owner had done the 2 day build seminar with. Consequently, the rudder and elevator were complete when I purchased the kit. The elevator trim motor has no holes to run the wires into the fuse. I really don't want to re-open the elevator and was wondering if I could rivet some wire fasteners near the elevator hinge doubler. Another thought was to glue the wire to the doubler with heat-wax gun. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks Don -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259844#259844 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:47 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) (on list :-) ) The 51% rule applies to all the builders of the aircraft. I think I am the 4th or 5th owner of my kit. I certainly didn't build 51% (which isn't measured in hours anyway). The important point is that the builders collectively did. And they all did it for their own entertainment and education and not "for hire" or profit. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mosquito56 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) I am curious how I can buy a plane that is "A few hours from air worthiness inspection." Doesn't the 51% rule come into effect? I don't want to seem rude, I really am curious on how to do this as my plane is about %80 done and I thought I couldn't sell it until it was done with the first 50 hrs? -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259838#259838 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:16 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Another 601XL for sale (off list) Hi Don, As I understand it, the 51 percent rule merely requires that the majority of work be done by amateurs - not one particular amateur. There is one regulatory issue that could come into play. Only one builder can get the "Repairman" certificate for each E-AB plane. This is usually the builder or majority builder. The repairman certificate allows a non-A&P to sign off annual condition inspections. Any A&P can also do this. Also, anyone can work on experimental aircraft without regard for licenses. Paul XL awaiting engineering changes At 05:21 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: >I am curious how I can buy a plane that is "A few hours from air >worthiness inspection." Doesn't the 51% rule come into effect? > I don't want to seem rude, I really am curious on how to do this > as my plane is about %80 done and I thought I couldn't sell it > until it was done with the first 50 hrs? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:57 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: priming with zinc chromate? And order of build? From: "mosquito56" Thanx for the info guys. I have decided to continue using the zinc chromate and rivet the plane before putting the engine on. I drilled my last holes today and will begin disassembly tomorrow for painting. -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259898#259898 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:22 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Installing the torqe tube for the flaps on the 601xl From: "mosquito56" I want to install the torque tube for the flaps but the instructions show matching the hinge up to the center of rotation on the tube. Can I use the wing mounting bracket as a reference for the tube? How much error is ok to still allow the tube to work correctly? Should I wait till after I drill the hole to mount the wing? Thanx Don -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259899#259899 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:41 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. From: "Thruster87" mosquito56 wrote: > I purchased a kit that the owner had done the 2 day build seminar with. Consequently, the rudder and elevator were complete when I purchased the kit. > The elevator trim motor has no holes to run the wires into the fuse. I really don't want to re-open the elevator and was wondering if I could rivet some wire fasteners near the elevator hinge doubler. Another thought was to glue the wire to the doubler with heat-wax gun. > Any ideas would be appreciated. > Thanks > Don Just did mine by putting in 3 x rivnuts into the elevator spar below the hinge and then using Adel clamps.It then fits nicely under the stab with another clamp on the down stop. Hope that helps Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259903#259903 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:51 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. From: "mosquito56" Adel clamps, Aircraft spruce? -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. 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