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Thu 08/27/09


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:19 AM - Re: Installing the torqe tube for the flaps on the 601xl (jaybannist@cs.com)
     2. 07:05 AM - Choke cable and Rotax 912 (Martin Pohl)
     3. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (Bill Naumuk)
     4. 08:08 AM - Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (Gig Giacona)
     5. 09:14 AM - Re: check your rudder bearing (Gary Gower)
     6. 11:03 AM - Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912 (Martin Pohl)
     7. 11:19 AM - Re: check your rudder bearing (jaybannist@cs.com)
     8. 12:34 PM - Main gear wheel removal (Melvin Francke)
     9. 03:09 PM - Re: Main gear wheel removal (LarryMcFarland)
    10. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912 (george may)
    11. 05:42 PM - VGs, 51% rule (Bill Naumuk)
    12. 07:42 PM - Almost ready for flight (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
    13. 07:52 PM - Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. (mosquito56)
    14. 08:11 PM - Re: Almost ready for flight (Sabrina)
    15. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912 (Leo Gates)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:19:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Installing the torqe tube for the flaps on the 601xl
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Don, If you need to drill the holes for the flap torque tube, you obviously don't have a quick build kit.? Do you have the wing alignment jig ?? If not, you will need to fab a short piece of .025" aluminum to simulate the rear wing spar (see drawing at upper left of Drawing 6-W-7. Rear Channel).? That is the key to locating the center of the flap hinge pin; thus the center of the hole for the torque tube.? See the drawing at the lower left of Drawing 6-W-1.? Then look at the drawing at the upper right on Drawing 6-S-3 for vertical location of the wing rear spar.? The spar attach plate will set the location horizontally. Let me know if you have questions. Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: mosquito56 <mosquito-56@HOTMAIL.COM> Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:49 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Installing the torqe tube for the flaps on the 601xl I want to install the torque tube for the flaps but the instructions show matching the hinge up to the center of rotation on the tube. Can I use the wing mounting bracket as a reference for the tube? How much error is ok to still allow the tube to work correctly? Should I wait till after I drill the hole to mount the wing? Thanx Don -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259899#259899


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    Time: 07:05:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Choke cable and Rotax 912
    From: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch>
    Hello everybody! I just installed the choke bowden cables on my CH601XL with Rotax 912. Although the bowden cables seem to have very little friction and the minimum bend radius of the cables is more than 6 inches, it is very very hard to pull the choke control (in my opinion way to much force required). Did anybody else experience the same problem? I installed the choke cable according to plans. Cheers Martin XL QBK -------- Martin Pohl Zodiac XL QBK 8645 Jona, Switzerland http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259930#259930


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    Time: 07:41:59 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim.
    Don- Yes. They come in different sizes. I just happen to have a bag of 1/4" in front of me and they're part number MS21919-WDG4. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "mosquito56" <mosquito-56@HOTMAIL.COM> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:45 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim. > > Adel clamps, Aircraft spruce? > > -------- > Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx > Apologies if I seem antagonistic. > I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals > for assistance in this thing we call life. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259907#259907 > > >


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    Time: 08:08:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim.
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    And don't worry about getting to many. You will use them a lot when doing the wiring and maybe in a few places without wiring. -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259939#259939


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    Time: 09:14:26 AM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: check your rudder bearing
    A drop of oil every once in a while...- At least every engine service. I aply a drop of oil in all moving parts everytime I wash the airplane... - - In harbor freight they sell a little one for less than 3 dls http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1106 - Every flying day, with the preflight, at least-I wash the widshield with plenty of water (avoid scratches) and-clean the leading edges with rag an d water. - All airplanes need a little love and care... - Saludos Gary Gower 701 912S--- 250 hrs building 601XL- Jab 3300 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Frank Probst <fprobst@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Frank Probst <fprobst@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Zenith-List: check your rudder bearing #yiv1859061757 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1859061757 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} The other day on my preflight-I noticed a significant amount of play in t he top rudder attach point of my 601.- Then I was at a fly in over the we ekend with several 601's and they all had some play.- One was really bad and the rest had quite a bit of play too.- The hinge is just a bushing ru nning in aluminium.- Mine has worn in just 100 hours. - Has anyone come up with a better bearing idea? - Thanks - Frank Probst Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! Check it out. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:03:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912
    From: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch>
    Just found this link on this website which already helps a lot: http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=3109&highlight=choke One question: how do you lubricate the bowden cables? Cheers Martin -------- Martin Pohl Zodiac XL QBK 8645 Jona, Switzerland http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259986#259986


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    Time: 11:19:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: check your rudder bearing
    From: jaybannist@cs.com
    Gary, I have been cautioned to avoid using oil on external control hinges and pivot points.? The objection is that the oil will attract dust, which will accelerate wear.? I have been advised to use the white powder lubricant made for locks. Jay Bannister? -----Original Message----- From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:46 am Subject: Re: Zenith-List: check your rudder bearing A drop of oil every once in a while...? At least every engine service. I aply a drop of oil in all moving parts everytime I wash the airplane...? ? In harbor freight they sell a little one for less than 3 dls http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1106 ? Every flying day, with the preflight, at least?I wash the widshield with plenty of water (avoid scratches) and?clean the leading edges with rag and water. ? All airplanes need a little love and care... ? Saludos Gary Gower 701 912S??? 250 hrs building 601XL? Jab 3300 --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Frank Probst <fprobst@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Frank Probst <fprobst@HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Zenith-List: check your rudder bearing The other day on my preflight?I noticed a significant amount of play in the top rudder attach point of my 601.? Then I was at a fly in over the weekend with several 601's and they all had some play.? One was really bad and the rest had quite a bit of play too.? The hinge is just a bushing running in aluminium.? Mine has worn in just 100 hours. ? Has anyone come up with a better bearing idea? ? Thanks ? Frank Probst Stay on top of things, check email from other accounts! Check it out. arget=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution start: 0000-00-00 end: 0000-00-00


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    Time: 12:34:22 PM PST US
    From: "Melvin Francke" <mlfrancke@charter.net>
    Subject: Main gear wheel removal
    What is the easiest way to remove a wheel from the main gear to change tire?


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    Time: 03:09:04 PM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: Main gear wheel removal
    Melvin, I'm initially presuming the effort to raise the tire on a 601XL. A C-clamp with a small jack will work if it's done in the hangar. If it's unexpected on a trip, you may have to be prepared with a C-Clamp and a scissor-jack in your stowage. For HD series gear all wheels are easily removed with a small jack and a bent bar with a T welded to it. See link. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/Teebarforkjack2.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601-gear-fork-jack.gif If you're in the boonies with a tire change needed with a HD series, you might find someone that wants to act as a jack with his legs, feet under the spar. Ha! Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com Melvin Francke wrote: > What is the easiest way to remove a wheel from the main gear to change > tire? > * > *


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    Time: 04:29:36 PM PST US
    From: george may <gfmjr_20@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912
    Martin-- That was my question 3 years ago and the answer given then is still good. The choke pull will get a little lighter with time=2C but it will still ta ke considerable effort to pull it fully open. After 280 hours I don't noti ce it as an issue. Just set the throttle to a full idle position=2C choke f ull open the the engine will start fine. Good luck George May 601XL 912s > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912 > From: mpohl@pohltec.ch > Date: Thu=2C 27 Aug 2009 11:01:51 -0700 > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > > > Just found this link on this website which already helps a lot: > http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=3109&highlight=choke > > One question: how do you lubricate the bowden cables? > > Cheers Martin > > -------- > Martin Pohl > Zodiac XL QBK > 8645 Jona=2C Switzerland > http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259986#259986 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery


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    Time: 05:42:18 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@windstream.net>
    Subject: VGs, 51% rule
    All- Your question on the use of VGs to reduce stall speed made the "Question of the Week" on the EAA E-Flier. Check it out. Also, according to the guy who gave the forum on paperwork at Oshkosh this year, the "51%" has to be built by unpaid amateurs. The number of people isn't an issue, but there has to be a record of ALL the builders of an airframe submitted. If you only built a relatively small percentage of the total project, you can still qualify for an owner inspection certificate dependent on passing a personalized knowledge exam. Don't take my word for it- contact EAA Technical for the last word. In most cases, they wrote the book! Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%


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    Time: 07:42:39 PM PST US
    From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: Almost ready for flight


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    Time: 07:52:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Problem with wiring for the elevator trim.
    From: "mosquito56" <mosquito-56@HOTMAIL.COM>
    order 20, thanx a bunch -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260117#260117


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    Time: 08:11:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Almost ready for flight
    From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
    Beautiful airplane (really cool digs as well)... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260123#260123


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    Time: 10:39:38 PM PST US
    From: Leo Gates <leo@zuehlfield.com>
    Subject: Re: Choke cable and Rotax 912
    To lubricate the cables I bought some graphite. I took the steel cable out of the guides. I squirted a puddle of graphite on a piece of wax paper and drew the cables through the graphite and used my fingers to spread the graphite on the cables. The graphite wore off my fingers in a couple of days, but is still on the cables after 5 years. Leo Gates N601Z Martin Pohl wrote: > > Just found this link on this website which already helps a lot: > http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=3109&highlight=choke > > One question: how do you lubricate the bowden cables? > > Cheers Martin > > -------- > Martin Pohl > Zodiac XL QBK > 8645 Jona, Switzerland > http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259986#259986 > > >




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