---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/30/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:21 PM - Chat room reminder for "Digesters" (George Race) 2. 02:26 PM - the mother of inventions (Carlos Sa) 3. 04:19 PM - Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) (lwhitlow) 4. 05:31 PM - Re: Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) (Paul Mulwitz) 5. 05:52 PM - Re: the mother of inventions (Jim Belcher) 6. 07:12 PM - Re: the mother of inventions (Jeyoung65@aol.com) 7. 11:25 PM - Re: Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) (Thruster87) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:27 PM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat room reminder for "Digesters" Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT www.mykitairplane.com Click on the Chat Room link on the page. Just started up, a new forum type list for airplane builders. Users wanted. Stop by and give it a try. www.mykitairplane.com/forum George Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:10 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: the mother of inventions From: Carlos Sa I was concerned about edge distance on a rib flange as I was drilling through the nose ski on the (CH601-HD) centre wing. Unable to see the flange without disassembling the work in progress, I thought about different possibilities. I could reach the spot through the lightening holes and feel the area with my fingers, but that wasn't enough. A digital photo would also not be precise enough to reassure me. So I thought of using an old trick: to make an impression with play-doh. But, nuts!, I was fresh out of play-doh. So I resorted to ...bread! Se attached photo. Thirteen mm between hole centre and flange edge. Great tool, versatile, cheap, and you can eat it when the work is done. Cheers Carlos CH601-HD, plans ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:16 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) From: "lwhitlow" Hi All I'm trying to fit the cowl (601XL Jab 3300 with the Jab Cowl) Look at the attached pictures When I get the thing lined up so the air intakes line up and are symmetrical the centering of the prop shaft is off.. WAY OFF Ok so which is it Center the prop and not center the air intakes?? (seem bad for cooling to me) or center the air intakes (and it looks like *&*^%^&*) OK someone whos been here before guide me Larry Whitlow 601XL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260524#260524 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0127_101.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0126_863.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:26 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) Hi Larry, I think I had a similar problems with my cowl. I don't remember the details (heck, I barely remember what I had for lunch) but I found a good picture that might help you out. After getting the crank shaft opening set up I had misalignment of the top and bottom fiberglass pieces that looked really awful. I decided to fill in the gaps with flox and epoxy filler. The flox came in a composite training kit from Aircraft Spruce. Flox is just a nice pile of chopped up fiber (cotton, I think). The kit was a great purchase even though intended for Rutan builders and their special techniques. I haven't yet flown my plane, but I think the filler will hold up just fine as well as holding paint just as well as the rest of the cowl. Please see the pictures below. Paul XL awaiting engineering changes [] [] At 04:18 PM 8/30/2009, you wrote: >I'm trying to fit the cowl (601XL Jab 3300 with the Jab Cowl) > >Look at the attached pictures When I get the thing lined up so the >air intakes line up and are symmetrical the centering of the prop >shaft is off.. WAY OFF Ok so which is it Center the prop and not >center the air intakes?? (seem bad for cooling to me) or center the >air intakes (and it looks like *&*^%^&*) >OK someone whos been here before guide me > >Larry Whitlow >601XL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:19 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith-List: the mother of inventions On Sunday 30 August 2009 16:24, Carlos Sa wrote: > I was concerned about edge distance on a rib flange as I was drilling > through the nose ski on the (CH601-HD) centre wing. > Unable to see the flange without disassembling the work in progress, I > thought about different possibilities. > I could reach the spot through the lightening holes and feel the area with > my fingers, but that wasn't enough. > A digital photo would also not be precise enough to reassure me. > > So I thought of using an old trick: to make an impression with play-doh. > But, nuts!, I was fresh out of play-doh. > > So I resorted to ...bread! > > Se attached photo. Thirteen mm between hole centre and flange edge. > Great tool, versatile, cheap, and you can eat it when the work is done. ...so that's what they meant when they said it takes a lot of bread to build an airplane! -- ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager ============================================ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:44 PM PST US From: Jeyoung65@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: the mother of inventions Man am I impressed with your ingenious!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jerry of GA DO NOT ARCHIVE In a message dated 8/30/2009 4:30:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, carlossa52@gmail.com writes: I was concerned about edge distance on a rib flange as I was drilling through the nose ski on the (CH601-HD) centre wing. Unable to see the flange without disassembling the work in progress, I thought about different possibilities. I could reach the spot through the lightening holes and feel the area with my fingers, but that wasn't enough. A digital photo would also not be precise enough to reassure me. So I thought of using an old trick: to make an impression with play-doh. But, nuts!, I was fresh out of play-doh. So I resorted to ...bread! Se attached photo. Thirteen mm between hole centre and flange edge. Great tool, versatile, cheap, and you can eat it when the work is done. Cheers Carlos CH601-HD, plans ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:33 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cowl Fitting ( the stuff nightmares are made of) From: "Thruster87" I had a similar problem as well with the misalignment so I used a heat gun to twist/bend and teak it.I'm very happy with the result and it was quick to do. 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