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Wed 09/23/09


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 05:42 AM - Re: First flight (DaveG601XL)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: First flight (n801bh@netzero.com)
     3. 06:12 AM - Re: First flight (LHusky@aol.com)
     4. 07:13 AM - Re: First flight (Rick Lindstrom)
     5. 09:06 AM - Re: Throttle and mixture control (Gig Giacona)
     6. 12:18 PM - Jabiru Engine Maintenance & Rebuild Seminar (Pete Krotje)
     7. 06:32 PM - Re: 601xl flap hinge (leinad)
     8. 06:35 PM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access. (leinad)
     9. 06:39 PM - Re: First flight (leinad)
    10. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access. (Craig Payne)
    11. 08:46 PM - Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access. (Ron Lendon)
    12. 08:48 PM - Re: First flight (Ron Lendon)
    13. 09:27 PM - Sizing of brake lines (lwinger)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:42:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
    Way to go, Mark! Glad to see you have joined the ranks of the flying. Just wondering......even though you have shepherded many Lightnings to completion, was this the first time you have made an initial flight of a new airplane? -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 100 hours and climbing! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264493#264493


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    Time: 06:12:19 AM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    A big congrats to you....... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer1@gmail.com> Subject: Zenith-List: First flight Just wanted to let you know and encourage those that are still building that: Tonight I flew my 601XL for the first time. This is after 6 years, 8 mon ths and over 1500 hours of build time. The plane flew great and is power ed by a Jabiru 3300. It was a short 20 minute flight over the airport. Thankfully the entire flight was un-eventful. Many thanks to Sebastien, Nick, Roger and Caleb at Zenith and Pete, Ben and Nick at Jabiru USA. It took awhile but it was well worth it. Keep building. Mark Mark Stauffer SN 6-4999 Jabiru 3300 762 lbs empty ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ========= ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYSwrCOnHLPnxIEhKevW HnSTct3HKVVgQfaiSl3Xo4YVZ22H9XBRmA/


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    Time: 06:12:19 AM PST US
    From: LHusky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Congrats Mark! Hope to join you soon with the same excitement. Larry Husky Madras, Oregon In a message dated 9/22/2009 9:53:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mark.stauffer1@gmail.com writes: Just wanted to let you know and encourage those that are still building that: Tonight I flew my 601XL for the first time. This is after 6 years, 8 months and over 1500 hours of build time. The plane flew great and is powered by a Jabiru 3300. It was a short 20 minute flight over the airport. Thankfully the entire flight was un-eventful. Many thanks to Sebastien, Nick, Roger and Caleb at Zenith and Pete, Ben and Nick at Jabiru USA. It took awhile but it was well worth it. Keep building. Mark Mark Stauffer SN 6-4999 Jabiru 3300 762 lbs empty (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 07:13:51 AM PST US
    From: Rick Lindstrom <tigerrick@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    Way to go, Mark! YOU da MAN! Happy to hear that everything was non-eventful, and that you consider your investment of time, money, and energy worthwhile. Rick Lindstrom ZenVair N42KP -----Original Message----- >From: Mark Stauffer <mark.stauffer1@gmail.com> >Sent: Sep 22, 2009 9:45 PM >To: Zenith List <zenith-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Zenith-List: First flight > >Just wanted to let you know and encourage those that are still building >that: > >Tonight I flew my 601XL for the first time. This is after 6 years, 8 months >and over 1500 hours of build time. The plane flew great and is powered by a >Jabiru 3300. > >It was a short 20 minute flight over the airport. Thankfully the entire >flight was un-eventful. Many thanks to Sebastien, Nick, Roger and Caleb at >Zenith and Pete, Ben and Nick at Jabiru USA. > >It took awhile but it was well worth it. > >Keep building. > >Mark > >Mark Stauffer >SN 6-4999 >Jabiru 3300 >762 lbs empty


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    Time: 09:06:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Throttle and mixture control
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
    Throttle probably. Mixture, if mounted on the left side of the panel would need to be shorter. How much I don't know. The only adjustment in length (other than fine end adjustment) on those is how you order it from ACS or how you route it. The throttle has to make a 180 degree turn anywhere you put in on the panel. PatrickW wrote: > Hey Gig - would those cables you ordered have been long enough if you'd wanted to install just a single set of controls on the left side? You're going with the Corvair and MA3-SPA, right? > > I plan to install a single set of these controls on the left side. > > How feasible is it to adjust the length of the other two controls (throttle, mixture) if need be? Is it just a simple matter of cutting them to size, or do they have some kind of fancy end...? > > Thanks, > > Patrick > N63PZ > XL/650/Corvair -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264541#264541


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    Time: 12:18:20 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Krotje" <pete@usjabiru.com>
    Subject: Jabiru Engine Maintenance & Rebuild Seminar
    Hi All, Our November engine maintenance and rebuild class is now full. Thanks to those who registered. In response to many requests to hold a class in the west we are taking our engine rebuild and maintenance seminar on the road. The class will be offered on Thursday and Friday - January 7th and 8th 2010 at Williams Gateway Airport in Mesa AZ. This class will fill up quickly so return the sign up sheet (at www.usjabiru.com ) as soon as possible to reserve a spot. Let me know if more info is needed. The remainder of the 2010 seminar schedule will be set soon and posted on our web site. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC 931-680-2800 www.usjabiru.com


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    Time: 06:32:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 601xl flap hinge
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    Caleb from ZAC got back to me and see splicing it is OK. He said to not use a but splice, rather it should be staggered the way Paul was describing. leinad wrote: > Long ago I some how purchased 6' long piano hinges for the flaps and now I'm building the flaps. The drawing calls for 7' long pieces. The actual cut length is 6'-6". I've got 3 pieces and am wondering if anyone knows if it's OK to splice it. Otherwise is there a good source for long piano hinges. I've looked at ACS and McMaster. I meant to call ACS today to see if they can get it, but it got to late in the day. > Dan -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264637#264637


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    Time: 06:35:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access.
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    Caleb from ZAC got back to me on this and without explaining why said not to do it. Maybe it's like Paul said, to keep it dry. I'll go by what the expert says and stick to the plans. Dan leinad wrote: > I was about to cut the access hole for the aileron trim tab motor in my aileron and I had an idea that I'm wondering if anyone else has tried. Instead of putting the access cover in the bottom of the aileron, put it in the top where the motor goes, then attach the motor to it. The entire motor would come out when you remove the cover. > > When I did the elevator trim I found it frustrating getting the motor bolted in place with my hands working through that tiny access cover. The motor was held on by tiny nylock nuts inside the aileron, and I must have dropped them a hundred times. I remember my hands getting cramps. > > Any thoughts? Has any done it this way? > Thanks in advance. > > Dan -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264639#264639


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    Time: 06:39:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    Good to hear you've made it into the air and thanks for posting! I need this shot in the arm right now. Dan -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264642#264642


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    Time: 07:38:01 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access.
    Well having not tried this one theoretical problem would be connecting the linkage to the servo. With it fixed to the main aileron you can reach through the access hole and connect the linkage. If the servo was on the cover you would have to connect the linkage with the servo outside the aileron and then insert the whole assembly through the access hole. Or am I missing something? -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of leinad Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access. Caleb from ZAC got back to me on this and without explaining why said not to do it. Maybe it's like Paul said, to keep it dry. I'll go by what the expert says and stick to the plans. Dan leinad wrote: > I was about to cut the access hole for the aileron trim tab motor in my aileron and I had an idea that I'm wondering if anyone else has tried. Instead of putting the access cover in the bottom of the aileron, put it in the top where the motor goes, then attach the motor to it. The entire motor would come out when you remove the cover. > > When I did the elevator trim I found it frustrating getting the motor bolted in place with my hands working through that tiny access cover. The motor was held on by tiny nylock nuts inside the aileron, and I must have dropped them a hundred times. I remember my hands getting cramps. > > Any thoughts? Has any done it this way? > Thanks in advance. > > Dan -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264639#264639


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    Time: 08:46:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron Trim Tab Motor access.
    From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
    The reason to not attach it to the access hole is more stability is offered when the surface the motor is attached to is large and non-interrupted. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Corvair Engine Prints: http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264660#264660


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    Time: 08:48:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First flight
    From: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon@comcast.net>
    Congratulations, fly safe. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Corvair Engine Prints: http://home.comcast.net/~rlendon/site/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264661#264661


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    Time: 09:27:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Sizing of brake lines
    From: "lwinger" <larrywinger@gmail.com>
    I'm installing the brake lines for my Grove cylinders and calipers. Does anyone have experience with them, especially the recommended sizing? I'm leaning toward 3/16" but have been hearing reports of 1/4" systems. By the way, my Grove gear is gun drilled and the bosses are 1/8" NPT female. -------- Larry Winger Tustin, CA Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair Polishing fuselage /ready for FWF www.mykitlog.com/lwinger Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=264664#264664




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