---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/05/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:23 AM - Re: Parts that dont fit (Jim Belcher) 2. 11:25 AM - CH2000 vs HDS (601corvair) 3. 12:48 PM - Re: CH2000 vs HDS (Carlos Sa) 4. 02:18 PM - Re: CH2000 vs HDS (LarryMcFarland) 5. 04:20 PM - Re: Chat Room Reminder (leinad) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:48 AM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Parts that dont fit On Sunday 04 October 2009 17:59, Greg Cox wrote: > I am building a CH650 in Australia and have found that my center wing spar > is the wrong angle (XL601) and that the front fuselage side skins are also > wrong (a mix of XL601 outer dimensions and CH650 pre drilled holes). As it > will take some time for replacement parts to arrive down under, I would be > interested to hear from anyone that is further along with the build (either > CH650 or late XL601) that may be able to advise of other parts that are not > correct so that I may have them all sent to me in one shipment. I believe > that there may be an issue with the seat bottom? and maybe the top skin? The seat pan I received isn't as much wrong as it is different and undocumented. There is a flange added to the outboard side which replaces the "L" angle shown on the plans. Someone else reported a flange on the inboard side that replaced the "L" angle there. That one would bother me, because it allows any "slop" in the location of the center console to be corrected. I had a lot of problems with the predrilled holes in the wings not lining up correctly. I managed to make them fit, but only with difficulty. -- ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager Mathematics and alcohol do not mix. Do not drink and derive. ============================================ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:03 AM PST US From: 601corvair Subject: Zenith-List: CH2000 vs HDS I am wondering if anyone has flown both an HDS and a CH2000 (Alarus)? If so, how comparable are the flight characteristics? Would the CH2000 be a good training platform for an HDS? Thanks phill hartig ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH2000 vs HDS From: Carlos Sa I've never flown the 2000, but it looks a lot like a CH640 (4-seater), not like the 601-HDS... http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/products/ch2000.html http://www.zenair.com/index640.html Carlos 2009/10/5 601corvair > I am wondering if anyone has flown both an HDS and a CH2000 (Alarus)? If > so, how comparable are the flight characteristics? > Would the CH2000 be a good training platform for an HDS? > > Thanks phill hartig > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:04 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH2000 vs HDS Phill, Either a CH 2000 or a Cherokee 140 would be a good primer for the HDS. Perhaps a little more sluggish, but would get the job done. The response rate for the HDS will be a bit quicker, but if you're current and remember to fly the plane, you're going to get along with the HDS in any case. The fine point will be getting it set on the mains while holding the nose gear off to slowdown and then ease it on. The rest will seem very natural. The HDS does not present contrary or difficult to master flight characteristics. It's really sweet.to fly. Recommend long term, electric elevator and aileron trim tabs. Pitch it for the middle ground. Best regards, Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com 601corvair wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has flown both an HDS and a CH2000 (Alarus)? > If so, how comparable are the flight characteristics? > Would the CH2000 be a good training platform for an HDS? > > Thanks phill hartig > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:08 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Chat Room Reminder From: "leinad" THat's right folks! It's Zenith Chat night. Come on out. 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