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1. 12:43 AM - Re: wing mod (Martin Pohl)
2. 02:04 AM - Re: Re: wing mod (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 04:24 AM - Re: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 (Jay Maynard)
4. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: wing mod (William Dominguez)
5. 05:52 AM - FAA SAIB & Insurance (kkinney)
6. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
7. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
8. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: tooling holes (LarryMcFarland)
9. 07:01 AM - [Fw: FW: LAA Mod - Aileron Balance question] (Bill Roberts)
10. 07:21 AM - 601 hds/hd wanted to buy!!! desperate!!! (wmiller)
11. 07:23 AM - (George Meketa)
12. 09:06 AM - Low cost polishing (Victor Menkal)
13. 10:04 AM - Re: Low cost polishing (Carlos Sa)
14. 11:05 AM - 601XL Upgrades (annken100)
15. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 ()
16. 12:46 PM - Fw: 601XL Upgrades (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
17. 01:59 PM - Re: 601XL Upgrades (annken100)
18. 03:15 PM - Re: 601XL Upgrades (ernie)
19. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: 601XL Upgrades (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
20. 04:56 PM - [Fw: FW: LAA Mod - Aileron Balance question] (leinad)
21. 06:01 PM - Re: 601XL Upgrades (annken100)
22. 06:22 PM - Re: (dennis hettrick)
23. 06:55 PM - Re: Polishing a CH710 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
24. 07:17 PM - Re: Polishing a CH710 (Stanley A Challgren)
25. 07:17 PM - Re: wing mod (mversteeg)
26. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: 601XL Upgrades (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
27. 07:52 PM - Re: Polishing a CH710 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
28. 07:57 PM - Re: Polishing a CH710 (Craig Payne)
29. 08:03 PM - vne (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
30. 08:52 PM - Re: 601XL Upgrades (Jon Bateman)
31. 08:55 PM - Re: Polishing a CH710 (Stanley A Challgren)
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| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
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I just had a quick look through the modification drawings and already have a question
that someone might be able to answer:
Drawing 6-ZU-1, Part 6-ZU-1-2, Wing Root Doubler
This doubler is installed on front side of spar root, which results in a 0,063"
thicker overall spar root. Does this match the center spar in the fuselage with
its original width? Or is the distance between the spar caps in the fuselage
somewhat flexible?
Anyway: I will implement all modifications (although some of them are a real pain
in the ..., even on my still incomplete XL) .
Finally I like how Zenair is laying open their documentation, in particular the
load test report to ultimate load from Sep 09!
Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html
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Hi Martin,
I'm not sure of the answer to your question, but I will take a guess.
The existing structure is pretty tight in the mating area. Perhaps
it will be loosened in the process of following the instructions we
don't yet have. Also, perhaps this opening is the reason for
replacing the current wing uprights with parts 6-ZU-2-4. This could
make room for a wider spar carry through.
Paul
XL - used to be complete, but now there is more fun to have . . .
At 12:42 AM 11/9/2009, you wrote:
>I just had a quick look through the modification drawings and
>already have a question that someone might be able to answer:
>
>Drawing 6-ZU-1, Part 6-ZU-1-2, Wing Root Doubler
>This doubler is installed on front side of spar root, which results
>in a 0,063" thicker overall spar root. Does this match the center
>spar in the fuselage with its original width? Or is the distance
>between the spar caps in the fuselage somewhat flexible?
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| Subject: | Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 |
On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:48:45PM -0800, lwhitlow wrote:
> And of course the hard to pin down "is it flutter or not issue?" OK so we
> beef it up to prevent it. Great! Chris addresses it in Question 8 that
> yes Weights are now going to be used. But unless I'm looking through it I
> see no drawings of the weights. I have the LAA drawings but I really would
> like it if a set would come from Zenith and the people who know the
> aircraft. Are we supposed to use the LAA drawings???
Yes. The AMD safety alert specifically says that the LAA instructions are to
be followed for the aileron balance weights only.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, PP-ASEL, CFI-SP http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (KFRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC http://www.tronguy.net/N55ZC.shtml
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I have noticed the same thing. The spar root is now .063 thicker but the spacers
remain the same. It would be easy to add a small .063 plate to the spacer however,
this would make the center spar rear web to move a little backward and
a little up, possibly necessitating a shim between the bottom flange of the center
spar rear web and the floor. For planes that have their center spar already
drilled to the fuselage, this might not be an option because the already drilled
holes might no longer match.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/
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From: Martin Pohl <mpohl@pohltec.ch>
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 3:42:49 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: wing mod
I just had a quick look through the modification drawings and already have a question
that someone might be able to answer:
Drawing 6-ZU-1, Part 6-ZU-1-2, Wing Root Doubler
This doubler is installed on front side of spar root, which results in a 0,063"
thicker overall spar root. Does this match the center spar in the fuselage with
its original width? Or is the distance between the spar caps in the fuselage
somewhat flexible?
Anyway: I will implement all modifications (although some of them are a real pain
in the ..., even on my still incomplete XL) .
Finally I like how Zenair is laying open their documentation, in particular the
load test report to ultimate load from Sep 09!
Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
http://www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL/Main.html
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| Subject: | FAA SAIB & Insurance |
I'm a beginner when it comes to aircraft insurance, so pardon me if this is a stupid
question.
Has anyone checked with their insurer to see if they're covered until they have
applied the modifications?
If so, what insurer have you checked with?
Regards,
Kevin Kinney
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| Subject: | Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 |
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: lwhitlow <ldwhitlow
@comcast.net>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, November 9, 2009
12:48:45 AM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650=0A=0A--> Z
enith-List message posted by: "lwhitlow" <ldwhitlow@comcast.net>=0A=0AHere'
s the link to the mods=0A=0Ahttp://www.zenithair.com/news/ntsb-astm-4-09a.h
tml=0A=0AOK- That was faster than I expected.- =0A=0AI do have sympathy
for what Chris said in his answer to Question 2 about non-disclosure per N
TSB rules and he mentions they are being sued as reasons they have not spok
en much on the matter. I was un-aware anyone had started legal action.=0A
=0AOK so a few of my questions have been addressed well, but a few have got
ten more cloudy=0A=0AI note the EXTENSIVE spar mods both in the wing and in
the center section, and do wonder about how much weight is getting put in
here??- =0A=0AThe drawings are great but has this been done on an actual
601?? are there pictures yet??- I know this is hot off the presses but ha
ve they actually replaced these parts on a completed aircraft?- =0A=0AAnd
of course the hard to pin down "is it flutter or not issue?"- OK so we b
eef it up to prevent it. Great!- Chris addresses it in Question 8 that ye
s Weights are now going to be used.- But unless I'm looking through it-
I see no drawings of the weights. I have the LAA drawings but I really wou
ld like it if a set would come from Zenith and the people who know the airc
raft.- Are we supposed to use the LAA drawings???- =0A=0AI wonder how l
ong it will be before we can get the upgrade kits in hand??- I never did
the final close on my wings so I'm pretty good there but some of the spar w
ork is gonna be a pain in the butt on a mostly finished fuselage..=0A=0ASma
ll price to pay I suppose...=0A=0A=0ALarry Whitlow=0A601XL Jabiru 3300 Sens
enich Composite prop=0AN69102 (Reserved)=0A=0A90% done with the first build
=0A0% done with the mods=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Aht
tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271784#271784=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 |
How -about the poor bastard thats been flying for years ,and hsa a ton of
money and time in his aircraft,-- I found about the the FAA notice Sun
day one day after it was put out .I also found a fix from zenith the same d
ay that they, are already doing it ?-Joe N101HD/601xl RAM=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_
_______________________________=0AFrom: lwhitlow <ldwhitlow@comcast.net>=0A
ubject: Zenith-List: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650=0A=0A--> Zenith-List messa
ge posted by: "lwhitlow" <ldwhitlow@comcast.net>=0A=0AHere's the link to th
e mods=0A=0Ahttp://www.zenithair.com/news/ntsb-astm-4-09a.html=0A=0AOK- T
hat was faster than I expected.- =0A=0AI do have sympathy for what Chris
said in his answer to Question 2 about non-disclosure per NTSB rules and he
mentions they are being sued as reasons they have not spoken much on the m
atter. I was un-aware anyone had started legal action.=0A=0AOK so a few of
my questions have been addressed well, but a few have gotten more cloudy=0A
=0AI note the EXTENSIVE spar mods both in the wing and in the center sectio
n, and do wonder about how much weight is getting put in here??- =0A=0ATh
e drawings are great but has this been done on an actual 601?? are there pi
ctures yet??- I know this is hot off the presses but have they actually r
eplaced these parts on a completed aircraft?- =0A=0AAnd of course the har
d to pin down "is it flutter or not issue?"- OK so we beef it up to preve
nt it. Great!- Chris addresses it in Question 8 that yes Weights are now
going to be used.- But unless I'm looking through it- I see no drawings
of the weights. I have the LAA drawings but I really would like it if a se
t would come from Zenith and the people who know the aircraft.- Are we su
pposed to use the LAA drawings???- =0A=0AI wonder how long it will be bef
ore we can get the upgrade kits in hand??- I never did the final close on
my wings so I'm pretty good there but some of the spar work is gonna be a
pain in the butt on a mostly finished fuselage..=0A=0ASmall price to pay I
suppose...=0A=0A=0ALarry Whitlow=0A601XL Jabiru 3300 Sensenich Composite pr
op=0AN69102 (Reserved)=0A=0A90% done with the first build=0A0% done with th
e mods=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matron
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| Subject: | Re: tooling holes |
djluscher wrote:
>
> Hi Larry,
> Thanks for the guidance. To be clear, many of the rudder ribs have flanges 2
degree open. Do you mean a 7-degree relief or bevel on the rib form is a good
number to get a 92 degree flange or do you mean I should bevel form blocks 7-degrees
closed beyond the desired flange angle (5 degrees total bevel in this
case?) I see 10-deg net called out in the construction standards from Zenith,
but am anxious to hear what angle has proven to work best in practice.
> thanks again,
> DJ
>
>
> DJ, the forms should allow you to overbend the aluminum 7-degrees to get a real
90-degree bend.
>
Any other, more or less according to the drawing requirements can be
adjusted by hand.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
> larry(at)macsmachine.com wrote:
>
>> Hi DJ,
>> Tooling holes are generally found on the centerline, but just be careful
>> that that hole doesn't interfere with
>> points of attachment etc. Presuming the holes will be used to sandwich
>> the rib between forms and center flanged holes.
>> You only need one every foot or so. The vise you use to grip while
>> hammering flanges will provide a better hold at small ends.
>> Don't forget to add the 7-degree over bend angle.
>>
>> Larry McFarland 602HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>
>> djluscher wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>> I'm just starting to build CH750 from plans and am making form blocks for
the rudder ribs. The plans only indicate the location for tooling holes on the
nose rib. The others are unspecified and I was seeking some advice/assurance
on using two or three 1/4" holes on the center line of each rib to hold blanks
between the form blocks. On the narrow end of the ribs these holes will be
within an inch of the flange.
>>>
>>> Is this OK? Any rules of thumb for drilling holes in small ribs?
>>> thanks in advance,
>>> DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 71693#271693
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271737#271737
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| Subject: | [Fwd: FW: LAA Mod - Aileron Balance question] |
I have seen the docs and read the various reports and notices.
I am glad to see the repairs (upgrades?) coming from Zenith although
I expect they were released primarily in reaction to the Arkansas
incident and that is too bad.
Regarding the LAA mod to Mass balance the ailerons, CH says in
Question #8 of his Q&A that we should balance them per the LAA
design just because it will make flutter concerns a thing of the
past.... The LAA says in their Mod/162B/004 under the
applicability section (#2) that the counterweight design is not
suitable for flexible skin hinged ailerons.
I expect to hear more from Zenith but, at this point, is it logical
that per both instructions, only "piano hinged" ailerons should be
balanced?
Bill Roberts
N723R (Reserved)
building 601xl 6-6415
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| Subject: | 601 hds/hd wanted to buy!!! desperate!!! |
Hi guys:
Great site, just discovered it. I live in Calgary Ab, Canada and have been
looking to buy a HDS now for several months. although these planes are plentiful
in the States, there are not many that come up for sale in Canada. I thought I
might have better luck tossing out a thread to this group to see if anyone knows
of aircraft for sale. I have placed several ads on Barnstormers but have had
little luck. My budget is around 30K give or take. I will list in order of
priority what I am after, but will probably be interested in almost any
combination. would also prefer a Canadian registered plane (importing is
possible but troublesome)but once again would import for the right airplane.
Here it goes!!!
HDS TAILDRAGGER with a Rotax-Lycoming-Continental
HDS TALDRAGGER Corvair
HDS " " " Subaru
HD TAILDRAGGER
Would also take a Nose wheel if it had a Rotax-cont-Lycoming
So basicly am looking for a tailwheel plane with a non-automotive type
engine........But hey, can't be picky. So iam willing to entertain just about
anything!!!!!
Cheers!
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| Subject: | Low cost polishing |
Hi John. Been mucking about with polishing for a while. Found
Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish is a great low cost alternative to
Nubrite. Pretty decent results without the cost, fuss and time
of nubrite. You wont get the mirror finish as with Nubrite but
folks still have to put on their shades before entering my shop.
Happy Polishing
Vic
CH750 Whitehorse Yukon
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| Subject: | Re: Low cost polishing |
I use Mother's too, it works well.
I tried Rolite, but didn't like it.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
2009/11/9 Victor Menkal <vmenkal@mac.com>
> Hi John. Been mucking about with polishing for a while. Found
> Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish is a great low cost alternative to Nubrite.
> Pretty decent results without the cost, fuss and time of nubrite.
> You wont get the mirror finish as with Nubrite but folks still have to put
> on their shades before entering my shop.
>
> Happy Polishing
>
> Vic
> CH750 Whitehorse Yukon
>
> *
> *
>
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Hey Folks,
We are certainly being given a lot of information in a short period of time and
it can be overwhelming. We all have some work ahead of us. That said, I am
excited about the upgrades being offered by Zenith. I feel that the modifications
take an already great airplane and make it that much better.
We should all keep a positive outlook and move forward.
Ken Pavlou
--------
601 XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 |
Knowing several DARs, I would agree with you. The DAR gives you an
airworthy certificate because he doesn't think what you built will kill
you. The paperwork is set by reg, and that's a go-no-go situation. But
if the DAR, whose name is going on the certificate, doesn't like what he
sees, for any reason at all, his judgement comes into play. There are
nitpickers who want to see the torque on every screw and bolt, and those
who work off general impressions, but all are aware that they are in
effect, co-signing the check you wrote.
Paul R
----- Original Message -----
From: afterfxllc@aol.com<mailto:afterfxllc@aol.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650
I would bet every DAR will know of the FAA's decision and will not
issue an airworthiness if the mods aren't done. I beleve they have to
request permission from their field office to preform the inspection so
a DAR that doesn't know of the mods is not going to happen.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650
<bryanmmartin@comcast.net<mailto:bryanmmartin@comcast.net>>
Unless things have changed quite a bit since I got my inspection, the
airworthiness inspection is primarily a paperwork inspection. My
inspector looked over my plane in just a bit more detail than you would
give to a typical pre-flight inspection, The primary points of the
inspection were to make sure all the forms were properly filled out, the
panel was properly marked, all the placards and markings were in place
and make sure all the required documents were in the airplane. The
inspector is not likely to get out your plans and go over them in detail
to make sure you followed them correctly.
On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:02 PM, leinad wrote:
<leinad@hughes.net<mailto:leinad@hughes.net>>
>
> Doug,
> You say the FAA has no hold over us Experimental builders, but as I
> haven't completed my build and the FAA has to inspect it and grant >
an airworthiness certificate for it, it seams like they do have at >
least some hold over us EAB guys.
> Dan
>
--Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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Yep-Ken , I'am so excited I've already wet my pants just thinking about h
ow much fun it's gona be tearing my plane apart,screwing up the paint,drill
ing out all those- rivets,and then I get to put it all back together.Oh i
t's going to be real fun,not to mention Paying for the up grades ,and the r
ivits ,and the paint and I'am sure that all the up grades will make my plan
e much stronger and much more safer. Isn't that the way it was supose to be
when I paid for it the frist time?? Do you think I'll be able to get more
money for it when I try to sell it? You would have to be a damm fool to by
a 601XL . My plane has the best of every thing in it . RAM eng,Sub 4 redriv
e,prince-P tip prop,tuned intake/with flowed heads,tuned exhast,ceramiccoat
ed inside and out,Terra raidos/wILS 2-min elect turn,LoranGPS, Parking brak
es,the list goes on and on....The only place I come up short is the WINGS a
nd FUSELAGE, but that no big deal is it Ken,Bet I be-lucky to get
$30,000- for such a GREAT plane you need to quit sniffing those covair e
xhast fumes!--- Joe N101HD=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0A
From: annken100 <annken100@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Mon, November 9, 2009 2:04:21 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: 601XL Upgrades=0A
Hey Folks,=0A=0AWe are certainly being given a lot of information in a shor
t period of time and it can be overwhelming.- We all have some work ahead
of us.- That said, I am excited about the upgrades being offered by Zeni
th.- I feel that the modifications take an already great airplane and mak
e it that much better.=0A=0AWe should all keep a positive outlook and move
forward.=0A=0AKen Pavlou=0A=0A--------=0A601 XL / Corvair=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARea
d this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p
=========================0A
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Upgrades |
Joe,
I'm truly sorry you are so upset about all of this. I hope lashing out at me makes
you feel better. I have $68,000 tied up in my plane and I too have all the
bells and whistles. I too have to rip apart my center spar box structure,
wings, and ailerons. Unlike you, I've accepted that my plane is worth crap at
this point. Then again, I didn't go the homebuilt route for resale value. If
everyone sticks together and incorporates the modifications we may see the resale
value of our planes increase after all the dust settles.
My thinking is not influenced by Corvair fumes as you suggest. I choose to be
practical and positive rather than negative and rude.
As a final note, I recommend you see a doctor about that pant wetting problem you
have.
Ken Pavlou
--------
601 XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Upgrades |
Ken,
Thanks for trying to get us feeling better about it. But as they say
no good deed goes unpunished.
My wing is not completely closed yet, so I don't have much rework at
this point. I can not offer the bright outlook that someone like you
can, and be taken serious.
Ernie
Do Not Archive.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:04 PM, annken100 <annken100@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> We are certainly being given a lot of information in a short period of time and
it can be overwhelming. We all have some work ahead of us. That said, I am
excited about the upgrades being offered by Zenith. I feel that the modifications
take an already great airplane and make it that much better.
>
> We should all keep a positive outlook and move forward.
>
> Ken Pavlou
>
> --------
> 601 XL / Corvair
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271955#271955
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Upgrades |
Negative and rude; I think not!- Factual and to the point, YES....=0A-
=0AI didn't buy my for resale, either, but like everyone else I'm going to
=0Ahave to poor money into an empty hole.- At some point in your life=0Ay
ou've got to cut your losses and quit throwing money in that hole.=0A=0AAs
far as wetting my pants, I still have to blame that on you because=0Aif you
believe what you wrote, I've some ocean front property I'd like=0Ato sell
you in AR; you or anyone else.=0A=0AMaybe I'm just like Zenith and no one's
to blame.- It's just the slip=0Aof the pen and the slide rule.- But, u
nlike the big "Z" I get to pay for=0Atheir mistakes.- They- may well ha
ve a lot in common with the doctors=0Aand the lawyers.- The lawyers mista
kes are in jail and the doctors=0Abury theirs.- =0A=0AThanks again.=0A=0A
Joe=0AN101HD=0A=0AP.S.- Keep that PMA=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________
___________=0AFrom: annken100 <annken100@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matroni
cs.com=0ASent: Mon, November 9, 2009 4:58:49 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Re:
100@aol.com>=0A=0AJoe,=0A=0AI'm truly sorry you are so upset about all of t
his.- I hope lashing out at me makes you feel better.- I have $68,000 t
ied up in my plane and I too have all the bells and whistles.- I too have
to rip apart my center spar box structure, wings, and ailerons.- Unlike
you, I've accepted that my plane is worth crap at this point.- Then again
, I didn't go the homebuilt route for resale value.- If everyone sticks t
ogether and incorporates the modifications we may see the resale value of o
ur planes increase after all the dust settles.=0A=0AMy thinking is not infl
uenced by Corvair fumes as you suggest.- I choose to be practical and pos
itive rather than negative and rude.=0A=0AAs a final note, I recommend you
see a doctor about that pant wetting problem you have.=0A=0AKen Pavlou=0A
=0A--------=0A601 XL / Corvair=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:
=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271975#271975=0A=0A=0A
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | [Fwd: FW: LAA Mod - Aileron Balance question] |
Or that the flex hinges have just become obsolete.
I'm still waiting for an answer to this one too.
Dan
[quote="broberts103"]
>
>
>
> I have seen the docs and read the various reports and notices.
> I am glad to see the repairs (upgrades?) coming from Zenith although I expect
they were released primarily in reaction to the Arkansas incident and that
is too bad.
>
> Regarding the LAA mod to Mass balance the ailerons, CH says in Question #8
of his Q&A that we should balance them per the LAA design just because it will
make flutter concerns a thing of the past.... The LAA says in their Mod/162B/004
under the applicability section (#2) that the counterweight design is not
suitable for flexible skin hinged ailerons.
>
> I expect to hear more from Zenith but, at this point, is it logical that per
both instructions, only "piano hinged" ailerons should be balanced?
>
> Bill Roberts
> N723R (Reserved)
> building 601xl 6-6415
> [b]
--------
Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Upgrades |
Joe,
Cool, I've never been blamed for causing incontinence before. I'll have to write
that one down in my book of life's achievements!
All kidding aside, I understand you are angry and I see your point of view. But,
to put things in perspective I'll draw a comparison between our 601 and a
type certified aircraft. If the FAA issues an AD against a piper cherokee it
is the owner who shoulders the financial burden to comply. I've not heard of
Beechcraft, Mooney, Cessna, or Piper paying for AD compliance even when the AD
involves structural issues. A quick example would be the AD on piper tomahawk
wing spars which was mandatory. I don't recall piper paying for the inspection
or repair. This is why I don't expect zenith to pay for the mod kit. It
is what it is and I simply chose to skip the getting angry part.
Ken Pavlou
P.S. I'm sure the property you are offering is lovely, but I'm not interested.
Also, I don't know what "PMA" is, but I get the feeling it isn't "Parts Manufacturer
Approval "
--------
601 XL / Corvair
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thank z-bag for any overconcern by feds
From: georgesautorepair@sbcglobal.net
unsubsribe
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| Subject: | Re: Polishing a CH710 |
Hi Stan;
Thanks for sending the Nuvite info. I have been trying Rolite
and the going is very slow!
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 11/8/2009 10:54:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
challgren@mac.com writes:
John:
I used Nuvite for my previous 601 and am using it again on my 701. I
recommend it highly.
I will get a packet of information to you tomorrow.
Stan
On Nov 8, 2009, at 20:43 , _JohnDRead@aol.com_ (mailto:JohnDRead@aol.com)
wrote:
Hello List;
I am considering polishing my CH701. Does anyone have a
suggestion for materials and technique?
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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| Subject: | Re: Polishing a CH710 |
John:
What are you using as a polisher. I have the cyclo that Nuvite
recommends and while expensive ($300+) I think it is worth it. Expect
about 50 hours of not exactly fun building to get the polishing done.
A paint job can cost over $5,000 so the cyclo looks cheap in
comparison. I did most of my 701 while I was building so only have
the wings to do while assembled.
Happy polishing.
Stan
On Nov 9, 2009, at 19:43 , JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Stan;
> Thanks for sending the Nuvite info. I have been trying
> Rolite and the going is very slow!
>
> John Read
> CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
>
> Phone: 303-648-3261
> Fax: 303-648-3262
> Cell: 719-494-4567
>
> In a message dated 11/8/2009 10:54:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, challgren@mac.com
> writes:
> John:
>
> I used Nuvite for my previous 601 and am using it again on my 701.
> I recommend it highly.
>
> I will get a packet of information to you tomorrow.
>
> Stan
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 20:43 , JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello List;
>> I am considering polishing my CH701. Does anyone
>> have a suggestion for materials and technique?
>>
>> John Read
>> CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
>>
>> Phone: 303-648-3261
>> Fax: 303-648-3262
>> Cell: 719-494-4567
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Hello Martin,
Yes, this is an aspect that confuses me too, the original wing spar
slides between
the front and back part of the center spar and this certainly doesn't
allow for a
0.063 Al wing root doubler. Just pushing it in wouldn't make the to
parts of the
spar lay flat on top of each other. If this stiffening of the wing spar
is required
then the two pieces of the center spar will need to be moved further
apart. This
can only be done when the two parts are detached at the top and removed at
least the from part is removed form the plane. I would say the only way to
properly install this is to remove the whole from part of the center
spar and make
a new one, with spacers that are 0.063 longer.
Looking at the front wing uprights that are now to be extrusions I am also
confused since the wing uprights that they replace were not wend to 90
degree so
I don't understand how a 90 part can replace the larger angle.
Clearly with these three drawings there are many questions remaining and an
instruction of how to install will be needed to clarify all of this.
- Maarten, 601xl plans build,
was somewhere halfway the fuselage but now ....
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Upgrades |
Ken,PMA is Positive Mental Attitude,and I'am not going to tell you again..
seriously the whole thing is a big mess,and has been on going for a long ti
me,and I just got off this list,for about a year,-then yesterday I caught
wind of the FAA involvement. Now having read more on the subject,I see tha
t this was not a-over -night thing, I found the CH Hintz letter and the
QandAns ,Last night I was thinking where in the hell did all this-come f
rom ? out of the blue on a weekend? In short I now- Know. So I owe you a
apology ,and- the big Z-- too,.I dont think that they should pay for
the fix ,you're right about that, It is what it is-My plane is great to s
ay the very least..and oppimisium is contagius ,so I will order my fix kit
tomorrow- from those very nice people at Zenith ,make my plane better-
and -get on with my flying (and eternal building)- going to put your na
me on my email list,because your a nice guy and now I know some one that ha
s more
money in a 601 than ME... Thanks Joe N101HD 601XL=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0AFrom: annken100 <annken100@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-l
ist@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, November 9, 2009 9:00:24 PM=0ASubject: Zenit
00" <annken100@aol.com>=0A=0AJoe,=0A=0ACool, I've never been blamed for cau
sing incontinence before.- I'll have to write that one down in my book of
life's achievements!=0A=0AAll kidding aside, I understand you are angry an
d I see your point of view.- But, to put things in perspective I'll draw
a comparison between our 601 and a type certified aircraft.- If the FAA i
ssues an AD against a piper cherokee it is the owner who shoulders the fina
ncial burden to comply.- I've not heard of Beechcraft, Mooney, Cessna, or
Piper paying for AD compliance even when the AD involves structural issues
..- A quick example would be the AD on piper tomahawk wing spars which was
mandatory.- I don't recall piper paying for the inspection or repair.-
This is why I don't expect zenith to pay for the mod kit.- It is what it
is and I simply chose to skip the getting angry part.=0A=0AKen Pavlou=0A
=0AP.S.- I'm sure the property you are offering is lovely, but I'm not in
terested.- Also, I don't know what "PMA" is, but I get the feeling it isn
't "Parts Manufacturer Approval "=0A=0A--------=0A601 XL / Corvair=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Polishing a CH710 |
Hi Stan;
I am not familiar with the Cyclo, I went to Harbor Freight for
one of their variable speed units. It seems to work quite well. I have
been quoted $6,000+ locally for basic white. I like the idea of doing all of
the work in my shop and not having to take pieces to the painter. Will you
be painting the cowl and the other FG pieces?
I think the weight savings of polishing alone is worth the effort,
it just seems to go really slowly. May be I am in to much of a rush. I
have had a few replies that mention Mothers polish as a way to go. Nuvite does
seem the be the system of choice.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 11/9/2009 8:17:52 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
challgren@mac.com writes:
John:
What are you using as a polisher. I have the cyclo that Nuvite recommends
and while expensive ($300+) I think it is worth it. Expect about 50 hours
of not exactly fun building to get the polishing done. A paint job can
cost over $5,000 so the cyclo looks cheap in comparison. I did most of my
701 while I was building so only have the wings to do while assembled.
Happy polishing.
Stan
On Nov 9, 2009, at 19:43 , _JohnDRead@aol.com_ (mailto:JohnDRead@aol.com)
wrote:
Hi Stan;
Thanks for sending the Nuvite info. I have been trying Rolite
and the going is very slow!
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 11/8/2009 10:54:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
_challgren@mac.com_ (mailto:challgren@mac.com) writes:
John:
I used Nuvite for my previous 601 and am using it again on my 701. I
recommend it highly.
I will get a packet of information to you tomorrow.
Stan
On Nov 8, 2009, at 20:43 , _JohnDRead@aol.com_ (mailto:JohnDRead@aol.com)
wrote:
Hello List;
I am considering polishing my CH701. Does anyone have a
suggestion for materials and technique?
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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| Subject: | Polishing a CH710 |
Kitplanes did an article on polishing in November 2007 ("Dare To Be Bare").
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JohnDRead@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Polishing a CH710
Hello List;
I am considering polishing my CH701. Does anyone have a
suggestion for materials and technique?
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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When did they change the vne to 120 from 180----joe-----
--------------- -N101HD
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We are all in the same boat so to speak. My wings and fuselage are complete
and like most people I will be taking it apart to add the mods. The part I
am having trouble with is the belly-aching that went on before the mods wh
ere known=2C to the start of the new belly-aching now that we have them wi
thin our grasp. If we didn't want the answer we shouldn't ask the question.
I will gladly make the mods that zenith has laid out. If I feel the need
to play lawn darts I will head to WalMart and buy the game.
Jon B. plans built
Just a little farther out then last Friday.
From: purplemoon99@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fw: Zenith-List: 601XL Upgrades
Yep Ken =2C I'am so excited I've already wet my pants just thinking about h
ow much fun it's gona be tearing my plane apart=2Cscrewing up the paint=2Cd
rilling out all those rivets=2Cand then I get to put it all back together.
Oh it's going to be real fun=2Cnot to mention Paying for the up grades =2Ca
nd the rivits =2Cand the paint and I'am sure that all the up grades will ma
ke my plane much stronger and much more safer. Isn't that the way it was su
pose to be when I paid for it the frist time?? Do you think I'll be able to
get more money for it when I try to sell it? You would have to be a damm f
ool to by a 601XL . My plane has the best of every thing in it . RAM eng=2C
Sub 4 redrive=2Cprince-P tip prop=2Ctuned intake/with flowed heads=2Ctuned
exhast=2Cceramiccoated inside and out=2CTerra raidos/wILS 2-min elect turn
=2CLoranGPS=2C Parking brakes=2Cthe list goes on and on....The only place I
come up short is the WINGS and FUSELAGE=2C but that no big deal is it Ken
=2CBet I be lucky to get $30=2C000 for such a GREAT plane you need to quit
sniffing those covair exhast fumes! Joe N101HD
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: annken100 <annken100@aol.com>
Sent: Mon=2C November 9=2C 2009 2:04:21 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Upgrades
Hey Folks=2C
We are certainly being given a lot of information in a short period of time
and it can be overwhelming. We all have some work ahead of us. That said
=2C I am excited about the upgrades being offered by Zenith. I feel that t
he modifications take an already great airplane and make it that much bette
r.
We should all keep a positive outlook and move forward.
Ken Pavlou
--------
601 XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Polishing a CH710 |
John:
I should have mentioned that I documented just over 50 hours on
polishing the 601 but it was worth it. Total time spent cleaning and
polishing never exceeded five hours each year after we started flying
and most of that time was spent removing bugs. I will spend about the
same time on polishing the 701.
One surprise was the polisher getting filled with small bits of cloth
and junk. Now I vacuum it out every day or so in order to keep it
clean. The polishing also leaves the shop a mess so don't leave
anything out that might be damaged by polishing residue.
Happy polishing -- The shine does make you smile.
Stan
On Nov 9, 2009, at 20:35 , JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Stan;
> I am not familiar with the Cyclo, I went to Harbor
> Freight for one of their variable speed units. It seems to work
> quite well. I have been quoted $6,000+ locally for basic white. I
> like the idea of doing all of the work in my shop and not having to
> take pieces to the painter. Will you be painting the cowl and the
> other FG pieces?
> I think the weight savings of polishing alone is worth the
> effort, it just seems to go really slowly. May be I am in to much of
> a rush. I have had a few replies that mention Mothers polish as a
> way to go. Nuvite does seem the be the system of choice.
>
> John Read
> CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
>
> Phone: 303-648-3261
> Fax: 303-648-3262
> Cell: 719-494-4567
>
> In a message dated 11/9/2009 8:17:52 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, challgren@mac.com
> writes:
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