---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/18/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:18 AM - What's My Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle) 1. 02:16 AM - Re: Zenith liability--Correction (Gary Ray) 2. 08:50 AM - picture of an old experimental vehicle (Carlos Sa) 3. 12:01 PM - Re: picture of an old experimental vehicle (Gig Giacona) 4. 12:13 PM - Re: picture of an old experimental vehicle (Mitch Hodges) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:13 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Zenith-List: What's My Contribution Used For? Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. 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It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:53 AM PST US From: "Gary Ray" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith liability--Correction I re-read a previous post of mine and found an error. I refered to the 'shop head' of the rivet when actually it should read 'factory head'. The 'factory head' has a small dimple that centers your drill on the rivet while you are drilling the head off. More care would be needed to drill the shop head off since it does not have a center dimple. The shop head is the side that was deformed when the rivet was originally set. At any rate the Zenith Builders and Flyers site blog http://www.zenith.aero/profiles/blogs/part-3-installing-the-upgrade Part 3: Installing the "Upgrade Package" to our Zodiac CH 601 XL: Drilling out the top inboard main wing spar has the solid rivet removal technique covered in detail. PS In keeping with good journalistic procedures, notice my retractions are published weeks later, in smaller type, on the back pages and after it doesn't matter any more. Gary Ray Working on the Zenith upgrade ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Ray To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith liability A Technique for removing the solid rivets: The spar cap solid rivets can be drilled just far enough to almost remove the shop head then a light tap from the side with a chisel removes the rest of the shop head, the rivet body is then lightly driven out of the hole with a smaller drift punch without any chance of damaging the holes. It all went very well. I did find a mass against the opposite side from the drift punch helped a lot just don't damage your spar caps with this mass. Gary Ray ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:56 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: picture of an old experimental vehicle From: Carlos Sa a bit out of topic, but worth clicking: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc_200911109_apollo11.html Carlos CH601-HD, plans ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:31 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: picture of an old experimental vehicle From: "Gig Giacona" Boy, NASA is really going to a lot of trouble to keep that old story that they went to the moon alive, aren't they? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=273590#273590 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:16 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: picture of an old experimental vehicle From: "Mitch Hodges" Gig Giacona wrote: > Boy, NASA is really going to a lot of trouble to keep that old story that they went to the moon alive, aren't they? Nah, probably just hired some high school intern with photoshop skills. I thought the footpath trails radiating out from the lander was a nice touch. DO NOT ARCHIVE No, I don't believe the landed on the Moon, I know they did! -------- Mitch Hodges N601MH (Zenith 601HDS) Builder Log at http://www.hodges.aero Wings Under Perpetual Construction Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=273592#273592 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.