Today's Message Index:
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1. 09:23 AM - EAA Experimenter (Bill Naumuk)
2. 01:25 PM - Czech Sport Cruiser (Jim Belcher)
3. 01:28 PM - Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
4. 01:45 PM - Re: Czech Sport Cruiser (jaybannist@cs.com)
5. 01:46 PM - Zenith 601xl mods (Beckman, Rick)
6. 02:01 PM - Re: Czech Sport Cruiser (William Dominguez)
7. 02:34 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
8. 05:14 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
9. 06:13 PM - Zenair CH250 (Dee Young)
10. 06:14 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Terry Phillips)
11. 07:45 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
12. 08:54 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Terry Phillips)
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Subject: | EAA Experimenter |
All-
Extensive Zenith coverage in this month's issue.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%
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Subject: | Czech Sport Cruiser |
Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessary
for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger next
to me would like to know, as he has one.
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Subject: | Zenith 601xl mods |
Gang
I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour on
video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips
can't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am
finished.
here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more
finished.
Jeff
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E)
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Subject: | Re: Czech Sport Cruiser |
Jim,
He might call Aviator Air Centers, Inc. at Grand Prairie Airport (KGPM)
972-988-8609. They have a Sport Cruiser they use for Sport Pilot trainin
g, so if it needs the mods, they would probably know..
Jay Bannister
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From: Jim Belcher <z601a@anemicaardvark.com>
t@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser
Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessar
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for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger nex
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to me would like to know, as he has one.
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Subject: | Zenith 601xl mods |
Hi, Jeff, I would like to know where you obtained the prints/parts for
the upgrade modifications. I have not started on mine, yet. I think your
videos will help. Thanks!
Rick
Gang
I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour
on video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the
clips can't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100
when I am finished.
here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more
finished.
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Czech Sport Cruiser |
Based on the pictures of the Czech Sport Cruiser wing spar we have in the ZBAG
photo sections, the wing spar is already beefed up. I doubt that Zenith modification
kit will fit the Sport Cruiser however, it might not need further reinforcement.
Your hangar neighbor should check with Czech aircraft work anyway.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami Florida
http://sites. google.com/ site/billplane/
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From: Jim Belcher <z601a@anemicaardvark.com>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:24:47 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser
Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessary
for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger next
to me would like to know, as he has one.
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A&P/IA
Retired aerospace technical manager
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Do not drink and derive.
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Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
Rick I don't want to say how or where I got the parts from but I will tell
you it wasn't from Zenith. Some of the parts I had to make myself and
others are the same parts used on the airframe in other places. :)
I am uploading 20 new videos tonight and will post them as soon as they are
done. They aren't the best but I hope it helps others out.
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
Great of you to do this I'll be following along Thankd- Joe N101HD=0A=0A
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com=0ASent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:51:25 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Zenit
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ave documented every hour on video and I am in the process of uploading it
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I am new to the list and know nothing about the Zenair. I have a chance to
pick up a partially built CH 250. I would very much appreciate your thought
s on this models flight characteristics?
Thanks
Dee
From: purplemoon99@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods
Great of you to do this I'll be following along Thankd Joe N101HD
From: "Afterfxllc@aol.com" <Afterfxllc@aol.com>
Sent: Thu=2C November 19=2C 2009 3:51:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods
Gang
I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour on
video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips ca
n't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am fini
shed.
here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more finish
ed.
Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5Ewww.buil=======
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Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
I commend Jeff for making the videos available. I suspect that they will be
very useful.
However, I think that everyone should be reminded that the drawings shown
on the web site are clearly marked "DRAFT."
To me, that translates to:
"SUBJECT TO CHANGE! Do not build anything until you get the final
drawings, or be prepared to take it all apart and rebuild so that your
aircraft will comply with the final drawings."
Of course this is only essential for S-LSA's & E-AB projects that still
need their air worthiness certificates. So far I haven't seen anything from
the FAA that says already approved E-AB aircraft are required to implement
the recommendations. Strongly recommended, but not required.
I doubt it will be too long before the drawings are finalized, but only
Zenair knows for sure.
Terry
At 05:33 PM 11/19/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>Rick I don't want to say how or where I got the parts from but I will tell
>you it wasn't from Zenith. Some of the parts I had to make myself and
>others are the same parts used on the airframe in other places. :)
>
>I am uploading 20 new videos tonight and will post them as soon as they
>are done. They aren't the best but I hope it helps others out.
>
>Jeff
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done;
Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
I agree with you and I have been in constant contact with Roger and if mine
has to be changed so does his right? Even Roger says it is still in draft
form. I won't close the wing but I have the same parts he does installed
and do you really think he would install something at the factory that would
have to be changed and then put it on video for us to watch?
Jeff
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Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
I have no idea what Roger would or would not do.
I only know that, to me, "DRAFT" means "DRAFT."
You pays your money and you takes your chances. If your anxious to be 1st,
go for it.
I'm not in that big a hurry. I'll wait for the drawings to be "FINAL," then
I'll know that, what I build will, at least, meet the DAR's expectation.
Again, I commend you for making the videos available.
Terry
At 10:37 PM 11/19/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>I agree with you and I have been in constant contact with Roger and if
>mine has to be changed so does his right? Even Roger says it is still in
>draft form. I won't close the wing but I have the same parts he does
>installed and do you really think he would install something at the
>factory that would have to be changed and then put it on video for us to
>watch?
>
>
>Jeff
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done;
Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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