---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/19/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:23 AM - EAA Experimenter (Bill Naumuk) 2. 01:25 PM - Czech Sport Cruiser (Jim Belcher) 3. 01:28 PM - Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 4. 01:45 PM - Re: Czech Sport Cruiser (jaybannist@cs.com) 5. 01:46 PM - Zenith 601xl mods (Beckman, Rick) 6. 02:01 PM - Re: Czech Sport Cruiser (William Dominguez) 7. 02:34 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 8. 05:14 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net) 9. 06:13 PM - Zenair CH250 (Dee Young) 10. 06:14 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Terry Phillips) 11. 07:45 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 12. 08:54 PM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Terry Phillips) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:18 AM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: EAA Experimenter All- Extensive Zenith coverage in this month's issue. Bill Naumuk Townville, Pa. HDS N601MG/Corvair 95% ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:00 PM PST US From: Jim Belcher Subject: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessary for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger next to me would like to know, as he has one. -- ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager Mathematics and alcohol do not mix. Do not drink and derive. ============================================ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:17 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods Gang I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour on video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips can't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am finished. here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more finished. Jeff _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser From: jaybannist@cs.com Jim, He might call Aviator Air Centers, Inc. at Grand Prairie Airport (KGPM) 972-988-8609. They have a Sport Cruiser they use for Sport Pilot trainin g, so if it needs the mods, they would probably know.. Jay Bannister -----Original Message----- From: Jim Belcher t@matronics.com Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2009 2:24 pm Subject: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessar y for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger nex t to me would like to know, as he has one. -- ======================== ==================== Do not archive. ======================== ==================== Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager Mathematics and alcohol do not mix. Do not drink and derive. ======================== ==================== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:05 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods From: "Beckman, Rick" Hi, Jeff, I would like to know where you obtained the prints/parts for the upgrade modifications. I have not started on mine, yet. I think your videos will help. Thanks! Rick Gang I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour on video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips can't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am finished. here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more finished. Jeff ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:07 PM PST US From: William Dominguez Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser Based on the pictures of the Czech Sport Cruiser wing spar we have in the ZBAG photo sections, the wing spar is already beefed up. I doubt that Zenith modification kit will fit the Sport Cruiser however, it might not need further reinforcement. Your hangar neighbor should check with Czech aircraft work anyway. William Dominguez Zodiac 601XL Plans Miami Florida http://sites. google.com/ site/billplane/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Belcher Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:24:47 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Czech Sport Cruiser Has anyone seen anything about the required modificatin kit being necessary for the Czech Sport Cruiser, a 601XL derivative? The guy in the hanger next to me would like to know, as he has one. -- ============================================ Do not archive. ============================================ Jim B Belcher BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science A&P/IA Retired aerospace technical manager Mathematics and alcohol do not mix. Do not drink and derive. ============================================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:51 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods Rick I don't want to say how or where I got the parts from but I will tell you it wasn't from Zenith. Some of the parts I had to make myself and others are the same parts used on the airframe in other places. :) I am uploading 20 new videos tonight and will post them as soon as they are done. They aren't the best but I hope it helps others out. Jeff ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:06 PM PST US From: "purplemoon99@bellsouth.net" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods Great of you to do this I'll be following along Thankd- Joe N101HD=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Afterfxllc@aol.com" =0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com; zenith601-list@matronics. com=0ASent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:51:25 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Zenit h 601xl mods=0A=0AGang=0A=0AI will pretty much have 1 wing done today and h ave documented every hour on video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips can't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am finished. =0A=0Ahere are the ones I have uploaded s o far and will post as I get more finished.=0A=0AJeff=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI=0Ahttp:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w M4JsPPpkaY=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE=0Ahttp://www.yout ube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa 4=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E=0A=0A -======================== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:20 PM PST US From: Dee Young Subject: Zenith-List: Zenair CH250 I am new to the list and know nothing about the Zenair. I have a chance to pick up a partially built CH 250. I would very much appreciate your thought s on this models flight characteristics? Thanks Dee From: purplemoon99@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods Great of you to do this I'll be following along Thankd Joe N101HD From: "Afterfxllc@aol.com" Sent: Thu=2C November 19=2C 2009 3:51:25 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods Gang I will pretty much have 1 wing done today and have documented every hour on video and I am in the process of uploading it to you tube but the clips ca n't be any longer than 10 min's so I will have well over 100 when I am fini shed. here are the ones I have uploaded so far and will post as I get more finish ed. Jeff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5Ewww.buil======= ======== _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler=2C now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=P ID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:52 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods I commend Jeff for making the videos available. I suspect that they will be very useful. However, I think that everyone should be reminded that the drawings shown on the web site are clearly marked "DRAFT." To me, that translates to: "SUBJECT TO CHANGE! Do not build anything until you get the final drawings, or be prepared to take it all apart and rebuild so that your aircraft will comply with the final drawings." Of course this is only essential for S-LSA's & E-AB projects that still need their air worthiness certificates. So far I haven't seen anything from the FAA that says already approved E-AB aircraft are required to implement the recommendations. Strongly recommended, but not required. I doubt it will be too long before the drawings are finalized, but only Zenair knows for sure. Terry At 05:33 PM 11/19/2009 -0500, you wrote: >Rick I don't want to say how or where I got the parts from but I will tell >you it wasn't from Zenith. Some of the parts I had to make myself and >others are the same parts used on the airframe in other places. :) > >I am uploading 20 new videos tonight and will post them as soon as they >are done. They aren't the best but I hope it helps others out. > >Jeff Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done; Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:51 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods I agree with you and I have been in constant contact with Roger and if mine has to be changed so does his right? Even Roger says it is still in draft form. I won't close the wing but I have the same parts he does installed and do you really think he would install something at the factory that would have to be changed and then put it on video for us to watch? Jeff ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:22 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods I have no idea what Roger would or would not do. I only know that, to me, "DRAFT" means "DRAFT." You pays your money and you takes your chances. If your anxious to be 1st, go for it. I'm not in that big a hurry. I'll wait for the drawings to be "FINAL," then I'll know that, what I build will, at least, meet the DAR's expectation. Again, I commend you for making the videos available. Terry At 10:37 PM 11/19/2009 -0500, you wrote: >I agree with you and I have been in constant contact with Roger and if >mine has to be changed so does his right? Even Roger says it is still in >draft form. I won't close the wing but I have the same parts he does >installed and do you really think he would install something at the >factory that would have to be changed and then put it on video for us to >watch? > > >Jeff Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done; Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.