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0. 12:17 AM - Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... (Matt Dralle)
1. 12:36 AM - Upper Engine Mount Question (Scotsman)
2. 02:19 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
3. 02:47 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Greg Cox)
4. 03:46 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Scotsman)
5. 05:22 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Scotsman)
6. 06:44 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Craig Payne)
7. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Craig Payne)
8. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Upper Engine Mount Question (Craig Payne)
9. 07:50 AM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (dougsire)
10. 10:19 AM - Re: Zenith 601xl mods (Craig Payne)
11. 03:18 PM - Part 12 and counting... (Jim Belcher)
12. 04:47 PM - M Test (Sabrina)
13. 05:18 PM - Re: M Test (Paul Mulwitz)
14. 06:21 PM - Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
15. 06:53 PM - Re: M Test (Sabrina)
16. 07:17 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
17. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: M Test (Paul Mulwitz)
18. 08:05 PM - Re: M Test (Sabrina)
19. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: M Test (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... |
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| Subject: | Upper Engine Mount Question |
Morning List, I am trying to finish up the upper engine mounts on my XL and specifically
with reference to attachment to the firewall and upper longeron.
When I look at my plans etc I see that it is an old version of the engine mount
that the plans etc provide instructions for. Mine is the triangular shaped newer
one. Does anyone have the specs for the positions of any/all bolts/rivet
holes that need to be made in the mount?
Many thanks in advance
James
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount Question |
ask and you shall receive
Jeff
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| Subject: | Upper Engine Mount Question |
Be careful with this drawing 6-B-6 the engine mounting hole positions were
not correct for my aircraft, I back drilled through the firewall.
Regards,
Greg Cox
Zenith Zodiac CH650, VH-ZDC
Sydney, Australia (Cecil Hills)
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Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper Engine Mount Question
ask and you shall receive
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount Question |
Sorry can't see any attachment...j
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount Question |
Greg can you send a picture?
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| Subject: | Upper Engine Mount Question |
And the fit in that area in general is very tight. In particular between the
nuts on the vertical bolts into the longeron and the rivets through the side
skin and the longeron. If you can stagger the bolt and rivet positions.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Cox
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:44 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Upper Engine Mount Question
Be careful with this drawing 6-B-6 the engine mounting hole positions were
not correct for my aircraft, I back drilled through the firewall.
Regards,
Greg Cox
Zenith Zodiac CH650, VH-ZDC
Sydney, Australia (Cecil Hills)
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Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Upper Engine Mount Question
ask and you shall receive
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount Question |
I forwarded Jeff's message directly to your e-mail address. Also sometimes
Matronics places a link at the bottom of the message to the attachment. Or
you can go to the web-based thread ("Read this topic online here") and there
will be a link and thumbnail for the attachment.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scotsman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Upper Engine Mount Question
<james.roberts@computershare.co.za>
Sorry can't see any attachment...j
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount Question |
James, I got a bounce on your e-mail address:
james.roberts@computershare.co.za
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From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Subject: FW: Zenith-List: Upper Engine Mount Question
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From: Craig Payne [mailto:craig@craigandjean.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Upper Engine Mount Question
I forwarded Jeff's message directly to your e-mail address. Also sometimes
Matronics places a link at the bottom of the message to the attachment. Or
you can go to the web-based thread ("Read this topic online here") and there
will be a link and thumbnail for the attachment.
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scotsman
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:47 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Upper Engine Mount Question
<james.roberts@computershare.co.za>
Sorry can't see any attachment...j
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601xl mods |
Here is a note posted by Mathieu today on his Q&A blog, "We will be issuing new
drawings VERY shortly with significant changes. There will be 4 pages"
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| Subject: | Zenith 601xl mods |
Indeed! Over on the Zenith.aero site Mathieu Heintz wrote this in his thread
on "Q&A - Safety Alert and SAIB - Zodiac XL / CH 650":
Nov 16th:
"You have already upgraded your wing? I am surprised as the drawings are on
the web as "DRAFT". We are still looking at changes as we are consulting
with outside engineers right now. I would not start the upgrade until you
have the final drawings."
And yesterday:
"Please remember that the drawings are "DRAFT" only at this time and many
parts will be updated. So please do not start making parts and riveting
things back together etc."
On the other hand Doug Dugger at QSP is upgrading his XL in public this
weekend.
-- Craig
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Phillips
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith 601xl mods
I commend Jeff for making the videos available. I suspect that they will be
very useful.
However, I think that everyone should be reminded that the drawings shown
on the web site are clearly marked "DRAFT."
To me, that translates to:
"SUBJECT TO CHANGE! Do not build anything until you get the final
drawings, or be prepared to take it all apart and rebuild so that your
aircraft will comply with the final drawings."
Of course this is only essential for S-LSA's & E-AB projects that still
need their air worthiness certificates. So far I haven't seen anything from
the FAA that says already approved E-AB aircraft are required to implement
the recommendations. Strongly recommended, but not required.
I doubt it will be too long before the drawings are finalized, but only
Zenair knows for sure.
Terry
At 05:33 PM 11/19/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>Rick I don't want to say how or where I got the parts from but I will tell
>you it wasn't from Zenith. Some of the parts I had to make myself and
>others are the same parts used on the airframe in other places. :)
>
>I am uploading 20 new videos tonight and will post them as soon as they
>are done. They aren't the best but I hope it helps others out.
>
>Jeff
Terry Phillips ZBAGer
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done;
Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Part 12 and counting... |
The 12th part has been added to Sebastien Heintz' blog:
http://www.zenith.aero/profiles/blogs/part-12-installing-the-angle
This installs the L-angle stiffners to the rear wing skins. It sounds as
though they may be adding L angle stiffners in the rear fuselage side skins,
but this is a bit fuzzy.
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Off-topic...
I passed my motorcycle practical test this afternoon!
I now possess an IL D*M license that is honored even in Wisconsin!
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone a little bit early...
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Well done Sabrina.
Did you take the test on your Harley?
Paul
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At 04:46 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
>I passed my motorcycle practical test this afternoon!
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I requested some information on the CH-250 but found out it is a CH-200. I
would very much like to have some information on the handling characteristi
cs of this model with an 0-290. Can someone please help with this?
Thanks
Dee
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thank you...
the bike was put together from Honda XL, Honda CB and Harley parts...
it is titled as a 1977 Honda XL 175...
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
Call Zenith in Mexico MO.
John Read
CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
In a message dated 11/20/2009 7:22:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
henrysfork1@msn.com writes:
I requested some information on the CH-250 but found out it is a CH-200. I
would very much like to have some information on the handling
characteristics of this model with an 0-290. Can someone please help with this?
Thanks
Dee
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Oh well, I'd have been more impressed if you managed to get through
the cones with your Sportster . . .
But still, it is nice to have the real license.
Have fun,
Paul
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At 06:52 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
>thank you...
>
>the bike was put together from Honda XL, Honda CB and Harley parts...
>
>it is titled as a 1977 Honda XL 175...
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FYI: the Honda insurance stayed the same and the Harley insurance with Geico only
went up $50.42 with the conversion of the M permit into an M license.
Avemco sent me a pro-rated refund of my aircraft insurance ($286.09). I can't
find anyone willing to insure the first 5 hours after the upgrade.
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Hi Sabrina,
Did you try Falcon? They offered me first flight coverage before the
current situation and they weren't at all alarmed about the
accidents. Maybe they are in a better position to cover experimental
planes than Avemco. (I have found Avemco less than stellar when it
comes to experimentals.)
Paul
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At 08:04 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote:
>Avemco sent me a pro-rated refund of my aircraft insurance
>($286.09). I can't find anyone willing to insure the first 5 hours
>after the upgrade.
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