Zenith-List Digest Sat 11/21/09

Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/21/09

Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:02 AM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
     2. 05:25 AM - Re: rear wing spars (n1269k)
     3. 10:44 AM - Re: M Test (kmccune)
     4. 11:13 AM - Painting the firewall (Steve Sims)
     5. 11:18 AM - Re: M Test (Sabrina)
     6. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: M Test (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
     7. 02:13 PM - Re: M Test (Sabrina)
     8. 02:48 PM - Parts for sale (LarryMcFarland)
     9. 03:32 PM - Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA changes? (Doug - SportAviation)
    10. 08:08 PM - Re: Painting the firewall (JohnDRead@aol.com)
    11. 09:33 PM - All the videos for the mods so far are done (includes riveting the new spar) (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
 
 
 

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Time: 05:02:11 AM PST US
From: Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Subject: Zenair CH-200      
      
      Thanks
      
      From: JohnDRead@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
      
      
      Call Zenith in Mexico MO.
      
      John 
      Read
      CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
      
      Phone: 303-648-3261
      Fax: 
      303-648-3262
      Cell: 719-494-4567 
      
      
      In a message dated 11/20/2009 7:22:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time=2C 
      henrysfork1@msn.com writes:
      I 
        requested some information on the CH-250 but found out it is a CH-200. I 
      would 
        very much like to have some information on the handling characteristics o
      f 
        this model with an 0-290. Can someone please help with 
        this?
      
      Thanks
      
      Dee
      
      
        Bing brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try 
      it now. 
      
      ttp://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com
      m/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com
      "http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com
      tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
       href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron
      ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
       		 	   		  
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Time: 05:25:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: rear wing spars
From: "n1269k" <n1269k@yahoo.com>      
      
      Does anyone know how the two piece rear wing spar will be affected by the new safety
      upgrades?
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274072#274072
      
      

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Time: 10:44:37 AM PST US
Subject: Re: M Test
From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>      
      
      Congrats Sabrina!
      If you don't mind, your description of XL,CB and Harley parts makes me ask, could
      you post a pic of the bike? Way back when I grafted a lot of bike parts together.
      
      
      
      Kevin
      
      
      Sabrina wrote:
      > thank you... 
      > 
      > the bike was put together from Honda XL, Honda CB and Harley parts...
      > 
      > it is titled as a 1977 Honda XL 175...
      
      
      --------
      History is a great teacher if you take time to study it.
      
      Steve Bennett
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274099#274099
      
      

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Time: 11:13:32 AM PST US
From: "Steve Sims" <zenoah@mchsi.com>
Subject: Painting the firewall      
      Hey guys,
      
      I would like to paint my firewall, what is the best way to prep and 
      paint galvanized steel?  Will scuffing and priming with self etching 
      primer work?  
      
      Thanks,
      
      Steve Sims
      601HDS
      Corvair
      

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Time: 11:18:51 AM PST US
Subject: Re: M Test
From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>      
      
      ...
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274108#274108
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/m_test_629.jpg
      
      

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Time: 12:34:40 PM PST US
From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
Subject: Re: M Test      
      Here Sabrina thought you might want to see this....
      
      _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I) 
      

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Time: 02:13:32 PM PST US
Subject: Re: M Test
From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>      
      
      I really like the video... thank you...
      
      although the original spar cap is a 90 degree angle (just like the replacement),
      in practice the top surface conforms to the curvature of the leading edge and
      top skin.  You can see this on the Zenith upgrade video.  The new top spar cap
      will not conform.  
      
      It bothers me that they are not beefing up the lower spar cap.  It might be easy
      to say that it was not necessary, but then why replace the two inboard lower
      spar cap rivets with bolts--was it an engineering decision or a material availability
      issue?  (102 degree extruded angle).
      
      I am happy to hear that an outside engineer is being consulted by Zenith to check
      CH's upgrade (CH did design the upgrade, correct?)
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274133#274133
      
      

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Time: 02:48:05 PM PST US
From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Subject: Parts for sale      
      
      
      Hi guys,
      
      Ive been asked to post a page to support the sale of two sets of parts 
      donated to EAA Chapter 75 for two persons that have gone west.
      One was building an RV10 and the other had a controllable variable 
      pitch. propeller. Either can be a bargain for the person in need of them.
      
      More specific information is on a page at the following link.
      
      www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm 
      <http://www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm>
      
      Id not post these, but when people pass, we do what we can to help.
      
      Thank you for your understanding.
      
      Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
      
      Do not archive
      
      

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Time: 03:32:05 PM PST US
From: "Doug - SportAviation" <Doug.Norman@sportaviation.aero>
Subject: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA changes?      
      
      To all our UK brethren:
      
      For those who have made the modifications and gotten back in the air, have
      you found any changes in the flight characteristics? For example, do the
      mass-balanced ailerons seem less-stiff, more stiff, or the same?
      
      

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Time: 08:08:14 PM PST US
From: JohnDRead@aol.com
Subject: Re: Painting the firewall      
      Hi Steve;
              Not much works on  galvanized steel, most rattle can paints say 
      they are not for galvanized metal.  I wanted to paint my FW so I could better 
      see oil leaks  etc. I found a Krylon product "Fusion for plastic" in Walmart. 
      It is made for  difficult to coat surfaces. I just cleaned the surface well 
      prior to  painting, it seems to have stuck on quite well. 
      
      John  Read
      CH701 - Elbert CO - Jabiru 3300
      
      Phone: 303-648-3261
      Fax:  303-648-3262
      Cell: 719-494-4567  
      
      
      In a message dated 11/21/2009 12:14:02 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
      zenoah@mchsi.com writes:
      
      Hey guys,
      
      I would like to paint my firewall, what is the  best way to prep and paint 
      galvanized steel?  Will scuffing and  priming with self etching primer work? 
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      Steve Sims
      601HDS
      Corvair
      
      
      (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) 
      (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) 
      (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) 
      ics.com/contribution) 
      (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) 
      
      

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Time: 09:33:04 PM PST US
From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
Subject: All the videos for the mods so far are done (includes riveting      the new spar)
      
      Zenithmod1-1-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNZ0uy2VF4) 
      Zenithmod1-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdcwWsMLF1s) 
      Zenithmod1-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BumV5n-40A) 
      Zenithmod1-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muqpgbb3QAM) 
      Zenithmod1-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3aXHf1mBI) 
      Zenithmod1-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXXhWCNzWaE) 
      Zenithmod1-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM4JsPPpkaY) 
      Zenithmod1-6-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97dP7x1xtE) 
      Zenithmod1-6-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75qkgfmvPUo) 
      Zenithmod1-6-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7qYtAnXa4) 
      Zenithmod1-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvXsrVs7Cs) 
      Zenithmod1-7-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOGWk4Ym0U) 
      Zenithmod1-7-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fASbdRci-5E) 
      Zenithmod1-8-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ZPTR2NZ_M_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ZPTR2NZ_M) 
      Zenithmod1-9-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lauvHAGbmDM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lauvHAGbmDM) 
      Zenithmod1-10-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pp0fFfmsiQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pp0fFfmsiQ) 
      Zenithmod1-11-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBNIRDNfRM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBNIRDNfRM) 
      Zenithmod1-11-2  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskKi9Bz4_8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskKi9Bz4_8) 
      Zenithmod1-11-3  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEul9CbjC0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEul9CbjC0) 
      Zenithmod2-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQB4kPwAJg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtQB4kPwAJg) 
      Zenithmod2-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92P-tvDWp8c_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92P-tvDWp8c) 
      Zenithmod2-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xOiysJEsc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xOiysJEsc) 
      Zenithmod2-1-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5iH2Afwv5g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5iH2Afwv5g) 
      Zenithmod2-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfaXbvOvsw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfaXbvOvsw) 
      Zenithmod2-2-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfrUSn8ZSo_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfrUSn8ZSo) 
      Zenithmod2-2-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEXUa4kMjQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEXUa4kMjQ) 
      Zenithmod2-2-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLf0JJEbxv0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLf0JJEbxv0) 
      Zenithmod2-2-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUgURhCojk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUgURhCojk) 
      Zenithmod2-2-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKnaigeLZ4_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKnaigeLZ4) 
      Zenithmod2-2-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgnNqPcjFk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NgnNqPcjFk) 
      Zenithmod2-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zx1aOo0Io_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2zx1aOo0Io) 
      Zenithmod2-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_Z08hy1DU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8_Z08hy1DU) 
      Zenithmod2-3-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FlkVfUT08_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FlkVfUT08) 
      Zenithmod2-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPB0-XZhjQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPB0-XZhjQ) 
      Zenithmod2-4-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwGCU6LFAk_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwGCU6LFAk) 
      Zenithmod2-4-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xhgS2NoNw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0xhgS2NoNw) 
      Zenithmod2-4-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2TXeFQy20_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2TXeFQy20) 
      Zenithmod2-4-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRLaEkoYfM_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRLaEkoYfM) 
      Zenithmod2-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnHxBCvmwXA_ (http://
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnHxBCvmwXA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadfGcGZ4ZI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadfGcGZ4ZI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p5mYU9_HI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28p5mYU9_HI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84iBIcAcxI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84iBIcAcxI) 
      Zenithmod2-5-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCc5JQxBU0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qCc5JQxBU0) 
      Zenithmod2-5-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxxa8rXsqU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxxa8rXsqU) 
      Zenithmod2-5-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9bGDUHJhU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve9bGDUHJhU) 
      Zenithmod2-5-8   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?vZg49HkHVg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?vZg49HkHVg) 
      Zenithmod2-5-9   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8DPUwC1gWA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8DPUwC1gWA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-10  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOWNRhObYyA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOWNRhObYyA) 
      Zenithmod2-5-11  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0WhPCRWcw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA0WhPCRWcw) 
      Zenithmod3-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaGkQ3-dYs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaGkQ3-dYs) 
      Zenithmod3-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Xd4MLK40w_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Xd4MLK40w) 
      Zenithmod3-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_Ilesu2pY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk_Ilesu2pY) 
      Zenithmod3-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJsGRflGGs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJsGRflGGs) 
      Zenithmod3-2-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSu690CW8-E_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSu690CW8-E) 
      Zenithmod3-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUnxyckrVE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUnxyckrVE) 
      Zenithmod3-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhCbuEF1Hs_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AhCbuEF1Hs) 
      Zenithmod3-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSZ0zOsxDA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSZ0zOsxDA) 
      Zenithmod3-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlcnh4quxI_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlcnh4quxI) 
      Zenithmod3-5-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDopP3GIF0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDopP3GIF0) 
      Zenithmod3-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcG-5b-jkj8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcG-5b-jkj8) 
      Zenithmod3-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt9pDViQKE_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQt9pDViQKE) 
      Zenithmod3-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6QVYF_7Yc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6QVYF_7Yc) 
      Zenithmod3-8-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXuFbrLsorc_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXuFbrLsorc) 
      Zenithmod3-9-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKMS-LAWWA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKMS-LAWWA) 
      Zenithmod3-10-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rxmbT7khLU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rxmbT7khLU) 
      Zenithmod3-10-2  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHIr6bYG148_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHIr6bYG148) 
      Zenithmod3-11-1  _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo2JqyaU0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOo2JqyaU0) 
      Zenithmod4-1-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7b-bxQb0I) 
      Zenithmod4-1-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24) 
      Zenithmod4-1-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN69khobb0o_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN69khobb0o) 
      Zenithmod4-2-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblUT9kcQ0g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yblUT9kcQ0g) 
      Zenithmod4-3-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRCLCk0u9g_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRCLCk0u9g) 
      Zenithmod4-3-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWcQtGQ7mRA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWcQtGQ7mRA) 
      Zenithmod4-3-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kyYVC_Snx0_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kyYVC_Snx0) 
      Zenithmod4-4-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0ghgzYscA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0ghgzYscA) 
      Zenithmod4-4-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnVKNHsrTQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgnVKNHsrTQ) 
      Zenithmod4-5-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHgqy9yRFg_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXHgqy9yRFg) 
      Zenithmod4-6-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5PkpIpkZyY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5PkpIpkZyY) 
      Zenithmod4-6-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9raX-Ec8IA_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9raX-Ec8IA) 
      Zenithmod4-6-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfmO7ab2tQ_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHfmO7ab2tQ) 
      Zenithmod4-6-4   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGurcF0fr8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seGurcF0fr8) 
      Zenithmod4-6-5   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkn7x3VjcZY_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkn7x3VjcZY) 
      Zenithmod4-6-6   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhm8e7P-XCw_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhm8e7P-XCw) 
      Zenithmod4-6-7   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANP25LIJiU_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fANP25LIJiU) 
      Zenithmod4-7-1   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAl04Ws916k_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAl04Ws916k) 
      Zenithmod4-7-2   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vsK2RVkic_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vsK2RVkic) 
      Zenithmod4-7-3   _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTDIEqFLj8_ 
      (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwTDIEqFLj8) 
      
      








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