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1. 01:15 AM - Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA changes? (Pete54)
2. 05:52 AM - How to bend hoops? (DAVID MILLER)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: How to bend hoops? (LarryMcFarland)
4. 07:52 AM - Re: Painting the firewall (Gig Giacona)
5. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA changes? (Gary Gower)
6. 12:20 PM - Polishing Question (Bill Pagan)
7. 12:47 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Jim Belcher)
8. 01:10 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Carlos Sa)
10. 01:38 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
11. 01:57 PM - Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with t (Pete54)
12. 02:33 PM - Re: How to bend hoops? (Jon Bateman)
13. 02:40 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Jim Belcher)
14. 02:48 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
15. 02:55 PM - Looking for a favor (Tommy Walker)
16. 02:58 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
17. 03:11 PM - Re: How to bend hoops? (Craig Payne)
18. 03:11 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Jim Belcher)
19. 03:32 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Craig Payne)
20. 03:41 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Jim Belcher)
21. 03:43 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Jim Belcher)
22. 03:51 PM - Re: How to bend hoops? (leinad)
23. 03:55 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
24. 03:59 PM - Re: Zenair CH-200 (Dee Young)
25. 04:37 PM - Re: Matco brake installation (mosquito56)
26. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Matco brake installation (Paul Mulwitz)
27. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: How to bend hoops? (Craig Payne)
28. 06:41 PM - Re: Looking for a favor (Ashley)
29. 11:53 PM - $352 (Sabrina)
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| Subject: | Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA changes? |
After all the messing about - no the ailerons feel just the same! They do neatly
return to neutral on the ground but I could detect no difference in the air.
The other mods - which you'll be spared I think, have more effect. All the UK
XLs have an enlarged trim tab, with most also having a spring connect between
the flaps and elevators. This now has to be removed (and the trimmer horn reversed).
The result is that the longitudinal stability in cruising flight is much improved.
Previously you could get a 20 kt increase in speed just by lightly pushing
the stick - that now needs much more force. Indeed the dive to Vne takes some
push. The downside is that you run out of trim a little before half flap has
run down. The LAA may introduce a further modifications to deal with that!!
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| Subject: | How to bend hoops? |
601xl scratch builders=2C how did you bend the hoops for the rear turtle de
ck and the canopy?
Thanks
Dave Miller
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend hoops? |
Dave,
I found bending the bows for both fuselage and canopy were easy when
done on a flat surface and a few c-clamps and guides.
See the links below that'll show what's needed. For the tubing, it's
best if you make a wood plug for each end and fill the tube with
fine sand and shake it down tight before bending. Later, when the shape
is close, you can dispense with the sand and make minor adjustments.
This is done in small increments over a curve trace image of what you're
after. See links,
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/frontbowadjust.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/frontbowbend.gif
This link shows the canopy as it progresses from early on to completion.
http://www.macsmachine.com/html/canopy.htm
Best regards,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
DAVID MILLER wrote:
> 601xl scratch builders, how did you bend the hoops for the rear turtle
> deck and the canopy?
> Thanks
> Dave Miller
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| Subject: | Re: Painting the firewall |
z601a(at)anemicaardvark.c wrote:
>
> .and that, IMHO, is the acid test. It didn't work in the field, when measured
> over a long period of time, as determined by a qualified and knowledgable
> observer.
>
Here's a data point to add to that. I've got a galvanized trash can that is older
than my high school senior son. It has been outside since the day I bought
it. Take away the dents that have accumulated over the years and it would look
pretty much like it did they day I bought it.
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See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List:Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LAA |
changes?
Geee...-reading this post, -I-remember what the-old timers always t
old us:
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"Only add lightness and simplicity to your homebuilt.
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Perfection is not when there is nothing-more to add, but when there is no
thing-more to remove ".---- Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry
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"Building your airplane light should not be your goal, but your obsesion".
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Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
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--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Pete54 <peter.morris@optimusaberdeen.com> wrote:
From: Pete54 <peter.morris@optimusaberdeen.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with the LA
A changes?
om>
After all the messing about - no the ailerons feel just the same!- They d
o neatly return to neutral on the ground but I could detect no difference i
n the air.
The other mods - which you'll be spared I think, have more effect.- All t
he UK XLs have an enlarged trim tab, with most also having a spring connect
between the flaps and elevators.- This now has to be removed (and the tr
immer horn reversed).
The result is that the longitudinal stability in cruising flight is much im
proved.- Previously you could get a 20 kt increase in speed just by light
ly pushing the stick - that now needs much more force.- Indeed the dive t
o Vne takes some push.- The downside is that you run out of trim a little
before half flap has run down.- The LAA may introduce a further modifica
tions to deal with that!!
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Polishing Question |
For anyone who has polished using Mothers Mag and Aluminum polish, what is
our experience with water (rain) spots.- How bad and how hard to clean of
f?
Bill Pagan
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
Did you get your question answered? It kept nagging on my mind that I'd seen
something on this aircraft in my files. I was looking last night, and found
it. If you still need it, holler, and I'll scan the material.
On Friday 20 November 2009 19:39, Dee Young wrote:
> I requested some information on the CH-250 but found out it is a CH-200. I
> would very much like to have some information on the handling
> characteristics of this model with an 0-290. Can someone please help with
> this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dee
>
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Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very helpful
=2C Thanks very much
Dee
> From: z601a@anemicaardvark.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2009 14:19:16 -0600
>
>
> Did you get your question answered? It kept nagging on my mind that I'd s
een
> something on this aircraft in my files. I was looking last night=2C and f
ound
> it. If you still need it=2C holler=2C and I'll scan the material.
>
> On Friday 20 November 2009 19:39=2C Dee Young wrote:
> > I requested some information on the CH-250 but found out it is a CH-200
. I
> > would very much like to have some information on the handling
> > characteristics of this model with an 0-290. Can someone please help wi
th
> > this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dee
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
Dee, I believe you can also find some information on the CH-200 in old
newsletters.
Check with jon@zenair.org, I think he has the old newsletters on CD.
Carlos
2009/11/23 Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com>
> Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very
> helpful, Thanks very much
>
> Dee
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Thanks Carlos I will give it a shot.
Dee
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
From: carlossa52@gmail.com
Dee=2C I believe you can also find some information on the CH-200 in old ne
wsletters.
Check with jon@zenair.org=2C I think he has the old newsletters on CD.
Carlos
2009/11/23 Dee Young <henrysfork1@msn.com>
Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very helpful
=2C Thanks very much
Dee
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| Subject: | Re: ith-List:Re: Any changes in flight characteristics with t |
Please do not get me started! The large trim tab was because the first UK example
of the xl had a forward C of G - and the larger tab sorted it!
The spring came about to extend the C of G range because a number of European
and UK aircraft had an aft c of g!!!!
And I fly in an environment where I have to have an 'approved' design and without
that everything is illegal.
So yeah it sucks, but flying is still worth it.
The whole situation is a mess with now 5 populations of aircraft (at least!).
The European 'microlights', notionally 450kg but actually a fair bit heavier (max
empty weight is supposed to be less than 268kg!!!!), the UK modified bunch
(about 25 aircraft at 560kg max) and the US models - LSA, EXP and ELSA at all
sorts of weights.
Add lightness? If only......................................................
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| Subject: | How to bend hoops? |
Hello Dave
I started off making the plywood templates per plans. Then took my 6 foot
long tubes packed them full of sand and pulled them around the template. Af
ter the first bend I marked center on both tube and template.Next I made a
tighter bend radious and screwed it to my work table along with a 1" x 2" b
acker plate spaced out 3/4" for the tube to lay in and hold it while bendin
g. After that it is a matter of marking where you want to add a little more
bend and working it slowly until you are satisfied. That worked great for
the second tube the first tube was a little more difficult at least for me.
the first atempt didn't work worth beans. So after the skin was clecoed in
place into the second tube I took a piece of cardboard and traced the prof
ile of the skin. This gave me a better pattern to work from plus as I got c
lose=2C I was able to fit it to the skin until it just fell in place. Right
or wrong it worked for me.
Jon B.
Sheet metal fab was complete now working towards upgrades.
From: tigermiller1595@msn.com
Subject: Zenith-List: How to bend hoops?
601xl scratch builders=2C how did you bend the hoops for the rear turtle de
ck and the canopy?
Thanks
Dave Miller
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
On Monday 23 November 2009 15:08, Dee Young wrote:
> Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very helpful,
> Thanks very much
I just loaded several pages on information onto my web site. You should be
able to find the file at:
http://www.anemicaardvark.com/Z601XL/CH200.pdf
Normally, I try to verify files I've uploaded before telling any one where
they should be. My internet has slowed to a crawl, so I'm unable to do this.
However, if you have a problem, holler.
I recommend you also try the source Carlos cited. It will be more from
Zenith's perspective. The stuff I uploaded is a review and summation of the
aircraft from a third party . The two different perspectives might be
revealing.
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Thanks very much Jim
Dee
> From: z601a@anemicaardvark.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2009 16:20:53 -0600
>
>
> On Monday 23 November 2009 15:08=2C Dee Young wrote:
> > Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very help
ful=2C
> > Thanks very much
>
> I just loaded several pages on information onto my web site. You should b
e
> able to find the file at:
>
> http://www.anemicaardvark.com/Z601XL/CH200.pdf
>
> Normally=2C I try to verify files I've uploaded before telling any one wh
ere
> they should be. My internet has slowed to a crawl=2C so I'm unable to do
this.
> However=2C if you have a problem=2C holler.
>
> I recommend you also try the source Carlos cited. It will be more from
> Zenith's perspective. The stuff I uploaded is a review and summation of t
he
> aircraft from a third party . The two different perspectives might be
> revealing.
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> BS=2C MS Physics=2C Math=2C Computer Science
> A&P/IA
> Retired aerospace technical manager
>
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| Subject: | Looking for a favor |
Builders,
I am finishing up my 701 and it's going to be polished. I got most everything
done, but for the final pass.
I am looking to rent/borrow/whatever a Cyclo orbital polisher. I will gladly pay
shipping both ways and take full responsibility if the polisher dies while
I'm using it.
If you have a polisher and don't mind sharing, please contact me at twalker(at)cableone.net
Oh, the reason I don't want to buy one is because I got this 701 sold. Believe
me, the next one is going to be bare or polished. What a job!
Thanks and do not archive.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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N8701 - Anniston, AL
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Jim the link doesn't work?
> From: z601a@anemicaardvark.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2009 16:20:53 -0600
>
>
> On Monday 23 November 2009 15:08=2C Dee Young wrote:
> > Any information on the Ch-200 that you could provide would be very help
ful=2C
> > Thanks very much
>
> I just loaded several pages on information onto my web site. You should b
e
> able to find the file at:
>
> http://www.anemicaardvark.com/Z601XL/CH200.pdf
>
> Normally=2C I try to verify files I've uploaded before telling any one wh
ere
> they should be. My internet has slowed to a crawl=2C so I'm unable to do
this.
> However=2C if you have a problem=2C holler.
>
> I recommend you also try the source Carlos cited. It will be more from
> Zenith's perspective. The stuff I uploaded is a review and summation of t
he
> aircraft from a third party . The two different perspectives might be
> revealing.
> --
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> BS=2C MS Physics=2C Math=2C Computer Science
> A&P/IA
> Retired aerospace technical manager
>
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| Subject: | How to bend hoops? |
For the canopy hoops (fore and aft) I built a template gauge to measure
the
shape of the canopy when it was resting on the fuselage. The canopy
that
came with my QBK was accurately trimmed from the factory. This was
before
the newer heavier canopies from Todd. Anyway the template gauge was just
a
large piece of =BC inch Masonite in the shape of a =93C=94 roughly an
inch or two
larger than the curve of the canopy. I placed sliding =93fingers=94
around the
curve every 3-6 inches so that they touched the canopy. To position the
fingers I clamped them with binder clips. Once I had the curve I screwed
the
fingers in place. Position the templates in the plane of the hoops. I
stiffened my templates by screwing a one by two along the straight edge
away
from the canopy. If this is unclear I can send pictures.
One critical point is the fore and aft position of the canopy. Too far
forward and the canopy=92s leading edge will hit the engine cowl when
the
canopy is raised. The number in the plans (or photo guide) worked well
for
me although I placed the canopy a little farther back (1/2 inch?). As
best I
can tell it is better for the canopy to be too far back rather than too
far
forward.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Bateman
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How to bend hoops?
Hello Dave
I started off making the plywood templates per plans. Then took my 6
foot
long tubes packed them full of sand and pulled them around the template.
After the first bend I marked center on both tube and template.Next I
made a
tighter bend radious and screwed it to my work table along with a 1" x
2"
backer plate spaced out 3/4" for the tube to lay in and hold it while
bending. After that it is a matter of marking where you want to add a
little
more bend and working it slowly until you are satisfied. That worked
great
for the second tube the first tube was a little more difficult at least
for
me. the first atempt didn't work worth beans. So after the skin was
clecoed
in place into the second tube I took a piece of cardboard and traced the
profile of the skin. This gave me a better pattern to work from plus as
I
got close, I was able to fit it to the skin until it just fell in place.
Right or wrong it worked for me.
Jon B.
Sheet metal fab was complete now working towards upgrades.
_____
From: tigermiller1595@msn.com
Subject: Zenith-List: How to bend hoops?
601xl scratch builders, how did you bend the hoops for the rear turtle
deck
and the canopy?
Thanks
Dave Miller
lectric.com
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
On Monday 23 November 2009 16:57, Dee Young wrote:
> Jim the link doesn't work?
OK. As soon as the net speeds up a little, I'll try to fix it. I'll email you
when that happens. Sorry for the problem.
It's a big file (>5 megs), so it's a little hard to troubleshoot with the net
acting up.
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It worked fine for me.
-- Craig
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
On Monday 23 November 2009 16:57, Dee Young wrote:
> Jim the link doesn't work?
OK. As soon as the net speeds up a little, I'll try to fix it. I'll email you
when that happens. Sorry for the problem.
It's a big file (>5 megs), so it's a little hard to troubleshoot with the net
acting up.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
On Monday 23 November 2009 16:57, Dee Young wrote:
> Jim the link doesn't work?
I'm not 100% sure where the problem is in my logic, but I think I have things
working now. Go to
http://www.anemicaardvark.com/Z601XL/
Don't forget the end "/" Also, the server is case sensitive. "z601xl" is not
the same as "Z601XL."
That should give you a listing of three files; one of which is "CH200.pdf"
Right click on it, and choose the "save as" option to save it on your machine.
This should give you a copy of the file in the place you have specified.
I downloaded a copy to my machine, using the process just described.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenair CH-200 |
On Monday 23 November 2009 17:31, Craig Payne wrote:
>
> It worked fine for me.
>
It looks to me as though some operating system/browser combinations may not
display a pdf file in the way I was suggesting it be done. It should work,
but it evidently didn't.
I had the same problem here on two different machines (one Windoze, one
Linux). However, when I used the procedure I described a moment ago, I was
able to download the file, then display it.
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend hoops? |
Dave,
Here's how I did mine.
http://daniel.dempseyfamily.us/zodiac/canopy/bending.htm
http://daniel.dempseyfamily.us/zodiac/canopy/index.html
Dan
[quote="tigermiller"]601xl scratch builders C how did you bend the hoops for the
rear turtle deck and the canopy?
Thanks
Dave Miller
> [b]
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It opened this time=2C Thanks very much
Dee
> From: craig@craigandjean.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2009 16:31:55 -0700
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>
> It worked fine for me.
>
> -- Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Belcher
> Sent: Monday=2C November 23=2C 2009 3:54 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
>
>
> On Monday 23 November 2009 16:57=2C Dee Young wrote:
> > Jim the link doesn't work?
>
> OK. As soon as the net speeds up a little=2C I'll try to fix it. I'll ema
il you
> when that happens. Sorry for the problem.
>
> It's a big file (>5 megs)=2C so it's a little hard to troubleshoot with t
he net
> acting up.
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Done
> From: z601a@anemicaardvark.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenair CH-200
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Nov 2009 17:24:51 -0600
>
>
> On Monday 23 November 2009 16:57=2C Dee Young wrote:
> > Jim the link doesn't work?
>
> I'm not 100% sure where the problem is in my logic=2C but I think I have
things
> working now. Go to
>
> http://www.anemicaardvark.com/Z601XL/
>
> Don't forget the end "/" Also=2C the server is case sensitive. "z601xl" i
s not
> the same as "Z601XL."
>
> That should give you a listing of three files=3B one of which is "CH200.p
df"
>
> Right click on it=2C and choose the "save as" option to save it on your m
achine.
> This should give you a copy of the file in the place you have specified.
>
> I downloaded a copy to my machine=2C using the process just described.
>
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> BS=2C MS Physics=2C Math=2C Computer Science
> A&P/IA
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brake installation |
I am trying to find a diagram of how to connect a Mc5 master with a mc-4 slave.
The slave has two holes but the master only has one.
Can someone expain or show picture of correct connections?
I assume that top of slave goes to resevoir and bottom goes to T on master then
to the brake.
Help
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Apologies if I seem antagonistic.
I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance
in this thing we call life.
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brake installation |
Hi Don,
I hope my memory is correct . . .
The master has a reservoir in the top of the cylinder. The single
port is for connection to the wheel cylinder . . .
The slave goes in the line between the master and the wheel cylinder.
I found a drawing on the Aircraft Spruce web site that shows which
end of the slave goes to the master and which goes to the wheel.
The fun part is figuring out how to get all the lines full of fluid
with no bubbles. The trick I learned is to do just the opposite of
what you do when you bleed brakes. With the lines and cylinders
empty you connect a pump and load of hydraulic fluid (airplanes don't
use brake fluid, they use the red stuff) and then pump fluid from the
bottom of the system all the way to the top of the master
cylinder. Suitable pumps can be something like a plastic ketchup
bottle or an oil can with one of those little pump handles built in
attached to the bleed valve on the wheel cylinder with a foot or two
of flexible hose.
Good luck,
Paul
XL awaiting release of upgrade kit
At 04:36 PM 11/23/2009, you wrote:
>I am trying to find a diagram of how to connect a Mc5 master with a
>mc-4 slave. The slave has two holes but the master only has one.
> Can someone expain or show picture of correct connections?
> I assume that top of slave goes to resevoir and bottom goes to T
> on master then to the brake.
> Help
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| Subject: | Re: How to bend hoops? |
When bending the hoops I found it easier to work from the center out (both
ways). Also the same bending jigs can open a bend up if you go too far.
Don't trim the tubes to length until all done - the extra length gives you a
handle and more leverage.
You need different radii along the tube so you need form blocks with
different radii.
I've attached a couple of photos.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Looking for a favor |
Tommy,
If you cannot get a response for a loaner, go buy a 10 inch buffer at Home
Depot or the like for under $20.
I polished my 601 and used on for the final pass and it worked great.
Floyd Wilkes 601XL
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Walker
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:55 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for a favor
Builders,
I am finishing up my 701 and it's going to be polished. I got most
everything done, but for the final pass.
I am looking to rent/borrow/whatever a Cyclo orbital polisher. I will
gladly pay shipping both ways and take full responsibility if the polisher
dies while I'm using it.
If you have a polisher and don't mind sharing, please contact me at
twalker(at)cableone.net
Oh, the reason I don't want to buy one is because I got this 701 sold.
Believe me, the next one is going to be bare or polished. What a job!
Thanks and do not archive.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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Tommy Walker
N8701 - Anniston, AL
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the new .125 wing root doubler has won me (and my mentors) over...
Zenith Order #7904, an upgrade kit for serial number 6331 aka SN 1 has been placed...
I figure 200 hours...
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