---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/25/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:58 AM - Re: $352 (DaveG601XL) 2. 06:35 AM - Re: $352 (Sabrina) 3. 07:37 AM - Re: $352 (DaveG601XL) 4. 10:24 AM - Solid Rivets (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 5. 11:33 PM - EAA Survey for 601XL/650 Owners (Terry Phillips) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:05 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: $352 From: "DaveG601XL" Sabrina, I will take the under bet on that one. I figure more like 100-125 hours. At 17 hours of labor, I have about 75% of the disassembly complete. I figure I can have it all disassembled at around 25 hours and take 3-4X of that to incorporate and re-assemble. But hey, who is counting? I love this kind of work anyway. I was trained as an A&P, but always worked in Engineering so this hands-on work is fun for me. Good luck on your's. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 116.5 hours and holding Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274734#274734 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:52 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: $352 From: "Sabrina" I have spent more than 17 hours going over the drawings and now the updated drawings... :O) Of my 2200 hour build, 1100 was "thinking it through". I have brake lines, battery cables, and wiring going through the center spar, not to mention the fuel pumps, fuel lines, primer lines, and backup battery mounted to it. So too, I created aluminum/foam/aluminum-thermoplastic side skin sandwiches around the center spar uprights because I thought the center spar too prone to vibrations and movement. That all has to be removed without damage to the side skins. Not to mention that my center spar is tied to my firewall and cabin floor with extruded aluminum via a forward center stack... To get to the rear spar attach plates, I have to remove four 4130 reinforcements... 200 hours is a good bet for my aircraft... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274746#274746 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:28 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: $352 From: "DaveG601XL" Yeah, I pretty much built mine to plans. I did not run my brake lines through the center spar so luckily I did not have to bust them open. Only had to cut three electrical lines to get the center section out. Now that I am reviewing the new draft drawings for the first time, I see there is increased complexity. I need to bump up my hours estimate. Congrats on your motorcycle test. As a volunteer FF/EMT, most accidents I see are the rider going off the pavement on their own accord. Stay alert and be careful out there! -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 116.5 hours and holding Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=274758#274758 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:39 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Solid Rivets I posted this on Zenith Aero but it was removed for some reason so I will repost it here. On the second wing I will have a helper hold the camera so you can see more of the work. And after doing a lot of the mod already I think it will take 200 hrs also. Rivet removal _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr24Nvs7fd0_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr24Nvs7fd0) Rivet sizing _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hvMbI_qkAA_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hvMbI_qkAA) Rivet Bucking _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRMgV06sZ24) Jeff I will also go thru all the video's I have made and group them into section so it will be easier to find what you are looking for. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:24 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Zenith-List: EAA Survey for 601XL/650 Owners The EAA is asking for input from owners: Calling All Zodiac 601XL/650 Owners ... Your input is needed! November 25, 2009 EAA Hotline item: http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-11-25_zodiac_update.asp The link to the survey is: http://www.zipsurvey.com/LaunchSurvey.aspx?suid=42295&Key=05F5CDF9 This is a unique (at least in my experience) opportunity to possibly influence the EAA's direction. Have at it. Terry Terry Phillips ZBAGer ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT ZU-601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail & flaps are done; Balancing the ailerons and working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.