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1. 09:01 AM - Re: stuck (Herb Heaton)
2. 10:12 AM - Re: stuck (Wade Jones)
3. 11:36 AM - un-stuck ! (Carlos Sa)
4. 01:14 PM - 701 Upholstery (Chuck Deiterich)
5. 02:44 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery (Carlos Sa)
6. 02:57 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery (Jim Belcher)
7. 03:23 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery (Damien)
8. 03:25 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery/ QSP Doug and Lori Dugger ()
9. 05:00 PM - 750 ALERON PROBLEM (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net)
10. 05:19 PM - Re: stuck (leinad)
11. 07:15 PM - Re: Re: stuck (Carlos Sa)
12. 07:18 PM - Re: 701 Upholstery (Doug - SportAviation)
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Hi Carlos,
I would try to drive the center mandril out through the rivet, pull it
through with pliers or use a small punch to get it out. Then you should
be able to drill the rivet out or maybe twist it out with pliers. Just
a thought.
Good luck
Herb Heaton
601XL, Plans
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa<mailto:carlossa52@gmail.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com> ;
zenith701801-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith701801-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: stuck
This is embarrassing.
I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It
won't budge, in or out.
Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib
are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this
station.
I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still
will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
Suggestions?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
stuck
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I use a spring loaded center punch to drive the rivet stub out. Lot less
pressure than driving out with a hammer & punch .
----- Original Message -----
From: Herb Heaton
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: stuck
Hi Carlos,
I would try to drive the center mandril out through the rivet, pull it
through with pliers or use a small punch to get it out. Then you should
be able to drill the rivet out or maybe twist it out with pliers. Just
a thought.
Good luck
Herb Heaton
601XL, Plans
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com ; zenith701801-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: stuck
This is embarrassing.
I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It
won't budge, in or out.
Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib
are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this
station.
I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still
will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
Suggestions?
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
stuck
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Stubborn little bugger !!!
I had to support the back of the spar with a 2x4, then hammer the rivet stem
until it got through.
Then I pulled it from the back with pliers.
The remaining material (rivet less the stem) came out easily by pulling from
the from, with pliers.
Geez, what an experience !
Thanks to all that provided suggestions.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
resuming riveting of centre wing.
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Does ZAC still sell upholstery (seat cushions) for the 701? I could not
find it on their web site. If so, what is cost? (my homemade ones are
getting worn.)
Thanks,
Chuck D.
N701TX
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Subject: | Re: 701 Upholstery |
Chuck, looks like they refer you to a third party (for the 601, at least):
"
To order, please contact Flight Crafters LLC directly:
*FlightCrafters LLC <http://www.zenithdistributing.com/>* (Zephyrhills,
Florida<http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Zenith+Distributing+LLC,+5048+Airport+Rd,+Zephyrhills,+FL+33542&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=11&ll=28.130733,-82.206573&spn=0.292472,0.462799&iwloc=A>
):
tel. 813-690-1916
"
Carlos
2009/12/11 Chuck Deiterich <cffd@pgrb.com>
> Does ZAC still sell upholstery (seat cushions) for the 701? I could not
> find it on their web site. If so, what is cost? (my homemade ones are
> getting worn.)
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck D.
> N701TX
>
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Subject: | Re: 701 Upholstery |
On Friday 11 December 2009 16:35, Carlos Sa wrote:
> Chuck, looks like they refer you to a third party (for the 601, at least):
>
When I checked the third party's site for the 601, I couldn't find it there,
either.
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Subject: | Re: 701 Upholstery |
Try Can-Zac, the Canadian dealer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Belcher" <z601b@anemicaardvark.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Upholstery
>
> On Friday 11 December 2009 16:35, Carlos Sa wrote:
>> Chuck, looks like they refer you to a third party (for the 601, at
>> least):
>>
> When I checked the third party's site for the 601, I couldn't find it
> there,
> either.
>
> --
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> Jim B Belcher
> BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science
> A&P/IA
> Retired aerospace technical manager
>
> Mathematics and alcohol do not mix.
> Do not drink and derive.
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>
>
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Subject: | 701 Upholstery/ QSP Doug and Lori Dugger |
Doug's wife Lori at Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale CA does interior for
Zenith planes. I just saw the new stuff she made for their Demo 750,
and of course their 601XL and she does a great job. Give her a shout at
qspinfo@gmail.com . She does a great job.
David M.
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Subject: | 750 ALERON PROBLEM |
Need some help, I've got a friend building a 750--he's -built several
planes inc. a 701 and never had this problem...when he moves the stick to
the left it's free when he moves the stick to the right it's springie and w
ill spring back to the ctr. cables are -at 25-30 lb.- when you get unde
r the plane and look in the access hole you can see the arm moving back and
forth ,when it moves foward it flexes to the right. that would be when you
you would be moving the yoke to the rt.-----------
- thanks Joe N101HD
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Carlos,
Glad you go it unstuck. Maybe I'm not up on the latest info from Zenith, but I
think that should be a solid rivet. The drawings I have dated Dec 9 state "INSTALL
EXTRUSION WITH SOLID RIVETS, SAME DIAMETER AS ORIGINAL HOLE IN EACH LOCATION",
and gives part numbers:
MS20470AD-6-15 and MS20470AD-5-10.
Dan
carlossa52(at)gmail.com wrote:
> This is embarrassing.
>
> I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It won't budge,
in or out.
>
> Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib are already
riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this station.
> I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still will have
a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
> stuck
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277255#277255
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Dan, this is a 601-HD - you might be thinking 601-XL...?
The A6 are used to hold four L angles against the centre wing spar.
These L angles reinforce the attachment of four nose ribs to the spar at the
landing gear stations.
Here's a close up, bottom right in this picture:
http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/images/CWing/cwing12.jpg
In this picture, you can see the ribs in question: the two outer ones, on
each side. Four ribs, 2 rivets on each one.
http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/images/CWing/cwing15.jpg
BTW, the pictures are from Don Honabach's project.
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
2009/12/11 leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>
> Carlos,
> Glad you go it unstuck. Maybe I'm not up on the latest info from Zenith,
> but I think that should be a solid rivet. The drawings I have dated Dec 9
> state "INSTALL EXTRUSION WITH SOLID RIVETS, SAME DIAMETER AS ORIGINAL HOLE
> IN EACH LOCATION", and gives part numbers:
> MS20470AD-6-15 and MS20470AD-5-10.
> Dan
>
>
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http://www.flightcrafters.com/zenithaircraft/zodiacupholsterykit.html
for the 601...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Belcher
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Upholstery
On Friday 11 December 2009 16:35, Carlos Sa wrote:
> Chuck, looks like they refer you to a third party (for the 601, at least):
>
When I checked the third party's site for the 601, I couldn't find it there,
either.
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Jim B Belcher
BS, MS Physics, Math, Computer Science
A&P/IA
Retired aerospace technical manager
Mathematics and alcohol do not mix.
Do not drink and derive.
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