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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch (Malcolm Hunt)
2. 05:00 AM - Re: Bottom Hatch (DaveG601XL)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Bottom Hatch (Gig Giacona)
4. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch. (Gary Gower)
5. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch (Malcolm Hunt)
6. 12:25 PM - 601XL for sale (Richard Vetterli)
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch |
Chris a subsidiary question. My copy of 6-ATO-1 shows the door as a flat
panel, but some of the photos I've seem indicates diagonal folds in the
door (presumably to reduce drumming) I would appreciate clarification.
Malcolm
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From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch
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> Pitch 75mm spacing 8 down sides 7 across back.
> Actual door size 580mm long X 545mm wide
> Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch |
Malcolm,
You are correct that the bottom hatch ZAC delivers is domed by the addition of
folds going out to the corners. I have found that it does not do much for oil-canning.
I put some additional L-angle stiffeners down it and it helped tremendously.
Dave G.
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David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade)
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch |
FYI... When I installed it I did away with the hinge at the front. It looked to
me that it would just be in the way when you had to actually work in there.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch. |
Hello Malcom,
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I will try to explain what I did with my 701's doors...- Just like the ol
d builders say: "If you modify just a little the building plans, you add se
veral hours more to the building process".
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I had the original doors =ECn the kit,-my idea was always to-build the
plane as close to the plans as posssible,- BUT there were in the list the
first photos of the bubble doors...- So we decided to use-our same doo
rs and just bend some more the center tube-to increase the-shoulder are
a, GREAT! we did it and when installed the cabin was very confortable,- w
e smiled.-
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The problem was that when we tried to install the (kits) doors holder on th
e wing,- the bending of the doors will not let it lock. so the door will
not hold open in place.-
Then we decided to put the gas springs, look around to find a pair, design
and make the custom support, etc...-
So just to make a little bend in the door,-added lots of hours to the sim
ple door instalation...--
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The good side is that the door works great and the cabin is wider.- Hope
this helps.
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Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico
701 912S- 285 hrs and counting.
601 XL- Jab 3300--ready for the Upgrade Kit.
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Malcolm Hunt <malcolmhunt@mha1.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrot
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From: Malcolm Hunt <malcolmhunt@mha1.fsbusiness.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch
ess.co.uk>
Chris a subsidiary question.- My copy of 6-ATO-1 shows the door as a flat
panel, but some of the photos I've seem indicates- diagonal folds in the
door (presumably to reduce drumming) I would appreciate clarification.
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch
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> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
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> Pitch 75mm spacing- 8 down sides 7 across back.
> Actual door size 580mm long X 545mm wide
> Chris
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277580#277580
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch |
David
Thanks for this. I have made the bottom door and it works very well so I
don't feel like putting it in the bending brake again and risking the fit!
I had thought about stiffening angles so I will go down that road.
Thanks also to Gary and Gig, all contributions are very welcome this side of
the pond.
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: "DaveG601XL" <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch
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> Malcolm,
>
> You are correct that the bottom hatch ZAC delivers is domed by the
> addition of folds going out to the corners. I have found that it does not
> do much for oil-canning. I put some additional L-angle stiffeners down it
> and it helped tremendously.
>
> Dave G.
>
> --------
> David Gallagher
> 601 XL/Jabiru 3300
> First flight 7/24/08
> 116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277595#277595
>
>
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Completed 601XL for sale, or Id be willing to sell the airframe and FWF separately.
Due to a major employment change, I MUST sell my XL project. It is complete, painted,
registered and ready for AW inspection. (Well it was ready for inspection.
Now it needs the Zenith upgrade kit).
$28,000 takes the entire plane. Or, $20,000 for the airframe and $10,000 for the
FWF.
That would be an entire completed airframe with upholstery, paint & instruments
for less than the cost of a quick build.
The FWF is a William Wynne Corvair Conversion with 12 taxi hours and no flight
hours.
Check out building photos and videos of the running engine at: www.flickr.com/photos/n56dv/sets
The plane is hangered at Livermore, California (LVK).
Contact me at: richvetterli@yahoo.com or call me at 925-931-9303.
Thanks,
Rich Vetterli
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