---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/15/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch (Malcolm Hunt) 2. 05:00 AM - Re: Bottom Hatch (DaveG601XL) 3. 07:36 AM - Re: Bottom Hatch (Gig Giacona) 4. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch. (Gary Gower) 5. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Bottom Hatch (Malcolm Hunt) 6. 12:25 PM - 601XL for sale (Richard Vetterli) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:01 AM PST US From: "Malcolm Hunt" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch Chris a subsidiary question. My copy of 6-ATO-1 shows the door as a flat panel, but some of the photos I've seem indicates diagonal folds in the door (presumably to reduce drumming) I would appreciate clarification. Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris Sinfield" Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch > > > > Pitch 75mm spacing 8 down sides 7 across back. > Actual door size 580mm long X 545mm wide > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277580#277580 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch From: "DaveG601XL" Malcolm, You are correct that the bottom hatch ZAC delivers is domed by the addition of folds going out to the corners. I have found that it does not do much for oil-canning. I put some additional L-angle stiffeners down it and it helped tremendously. Dave G. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277595#277595 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:34 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch From: "Gig Giacona" FYI... When I installed it I did away with the hinge at the front. It looked to me that it would just be in the way when you had to actually work in there. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277615#277615 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:47 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch. Hello Malcom, - I will try to explain what I did with my 701's doors...- Just like the ol d builders say: "If you modify just a little the building plans, you add se veral hours more to the building process". - I had the original doors =ECn the kit,-my idea was always to-build the plane as close to the plans as posssible,- BUT there were in the list the first photos of the bubble doors...- So we decided to use-our same doo rs and just bend some more the center tube-to increase the-shoulder are a, GREAT! we did it and when installed the cabin was very confortable,- w e smiled.- - The problem was that when we tried to install the (kits) doors holder on th e wing,- the bending of the doors will not let it lock. so the door will not hold open in place.- Then we decided to put the gas springs, look around to find a pair, design and make the custom support, etc...- So just to make a little bend in the door,-added lots of hours to the sim ple door instalation...-- - The good side is that the door works great and the cabin is wider.- Hope this helps. - Saludos Gary Gower Flying from Chapala, Mexico 701 912S- 285 hrs and counting. 601 XL- Jab 3300--ready for the Upgrade Kit. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Malcolm Hunt wrot e: From: Malcolm Hunt Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch ess.co.uk> Chris a subsidiary question.- My copy of 6-ATO-1 shows the door as a flat panel, but some of the photos I've seem indicates- diagonal folds in the door (presumably to reduce drumming) I would appreciate clarification. Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris Sinfield" Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch > > > > Pitch 75mm spacing- 8 down sides 7 across back. > Actual door size 580mm long X 545mm wide > Chris > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277580#277580 > > > le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:52 AM PST US From: "Malcolm Hunt" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch David Thanks for this. I have made the bottom door and it works very well so I don't feel like putting it in the bending brake again and risking the fit! I had thought about stiffening angles so I will go down that road. Thanks also to Gary and Gig, all contributions are very welcome this side of the pond. Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "DaveG601XL" Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Bottom Hatch > > > Malcolm, > > You are correct that the bottom hatch ZAC delivers is domed by the > addition of folds going out to the corners. I have found that it does not > do much for oil-canning. I put some additional L-angle stiffeners down it > and it helped tremendously. > > Dave G. > > -------- > David Gallagher > 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 > First flight 7/24/08 > 116.5 hours and holding (incorporating upgrade) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277595#277595 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:33 PM PST US From: Richard Vetterli Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL for sale Completed 601XL for sale, or Id be willing to sell the airframe and FWF separately. Due to a major employment change, I MUST sell my XL project. It is complete, painted, registered and ready for AW inspection. (Well it was ready for inspection. Now it needs the Zenith upgrade kit). $28,000 takes the entire plane. Or, $20,000 for the airframe and $10,000 for the FWF. That would be an entire completed airframe with upholstery, paint & instruments for less than the cost of a quick build. The FWF is a William Wynne Corvair Conversion with 12 taxi hours and no flight hours. Check out building photos and videos of the running engine at: www.flickr.com/photos/n56dv/sets The plane is hangered at Livermore, California (LVK). Contact me at: richvetterli@yahoo.com or call me at 925-931-9303. 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