Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:44 AM - Re: Alieron Gussets (Ashley)
2. 07:31 AM - Re: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets (William Dominguez)
3. 08:04 AM - You think YOU have it bad... (Bill Naumuk)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: Alieron Gussets (Bill Pagan)
5. 08:47 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/12/10 (Joe)
6. 01:01 PM - Re: Alieron Gussets (Robert Taylor)
7. 01:02 PM - Re: Alieron Gussets (Robert Taylor)
8. 04:46 PM - Centre Wing Spar (Robert Taylor)
9. 08:29 PM - Re: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets (John Smith)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Rob
Check your kit again, they were included in mine.
But to answer your question file attached.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:50 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets
Can anyone help direct me to drawings for Alieron Gussets 65W2-5 and 65W2-6
?
I am doing the mods on the left wing and the gussets weren't supplied in the
mod kit. I seem to recall seeing the drawings for these gussets some time
ago, being a modification to the alierons.
If I can get the size and thickness of these gussets I'll make them.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Rob Taylor
601 XL
_____
Find your next place with Ninemsn pro='_new'>Looking for a place to rent,
share or buy?
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets |
Rivet squeezer and gun/bucking bar are not the only way to drive solid rivets to
the spar. I'm using an harbor press, it works well and is the cheaper method.
I created a jig that holds the spar in the right position and angle in relation
to the harbor press.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601XL Plans
Miami, Florida
http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/
________________________________
From: lwhitlow <ldwhitlow@comcast.net>
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 2:17:13 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets
So I've got the upgrade kit on hand. I've removed the solid rivets from the center
section and the left wing and I've removed the angle on the top of the wing
spar.
Soon I'm gonna have to put it all back together and I need some advice.
There's no one around that has a rivet gun and I've never bucked rivet one, so
I'm in the position of having to buy the tools anyway
I'm actually leaning toward a rivet squeezer instead of a gun/bucking bar.
it seems like the learning curve is way smaller with a squeezer than a gun, and
since I'm teaching myself on my spars I'd like to just get it right the first
time
The squeezer shown is a Atlantic Aircraft Tools Tandem Alligator 3" Deep Rivet
Squeezer 1/4" Rivet Set Dies Its a tandem cylinder unit which means it has enough
oomph to squeeze the spar rivets and the jaws have enough room to reach around
the angles at the top of the spar
used its about $300
Comments ??? Concerns???
Larry
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286180#286180
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.co; -Matt Dralle, Lis
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | You think YOU have it bad... |
All-
Just read where NASA sent up a chunk of the space station that won't
bolt up. Try improvising in zero G!
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Alieron Gussets |
Hey Rob,=0A=0AThe gussets are shown on drawing 6-ZU-4=0A=0AThey are in the
upgrade kit and on the inventory sheet I-received=0A-Bill Pagan =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Robert Taylor <rwta
ylorjar@HOTMAIL.COM>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, February
13, 2010 2:50:11 AM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets=0A=0A-=0ACan
anyone help direct me to drawings for Alieron Gussets 65W2-5 and 65W2-6 ?
=0A-=0AI am doing the mods on the left wing and the gussets weren't suppl
ied in the mod kit.- I seem to recall seeing the drawings for these gusse
ts some time ago, being a modification to the alierons.=0A-=0AIf I can ge
t the size and thickness of these gussets I'll make them.- =0A-=0AAny h
elp would be gratefully appreciated.=0A-=0ARob Taylor=0A601 XL=0A-=0A
-=0A=0A________________________________=0AFind your next place with Ninem
===============0A=0A=0A
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/12/10 |
Larry,
I was in the same boat as you. I didn't want to purchase a 4X gun because I
will never use it again! I removed the leading edge completely, then removed
the spar from the wing. I used a drill press to remove all of the rivets.
That way, they all came out nice and straight. I used a drill stop to remove
the maximum amount of material from the rivet. They came out with one or two
taps with the hammer and punch. Seeing that the spar was out of the plane, I
replaced the entire 10 ft extrusion from end to end. I drilled out the holes
and placed the rivets in the holes, then taped over the rivet head. I took
the spar to my local FBO and I had an A&P do the rivets with his tools. He
had lots of experience with rivets that big. This procedure may seem
bizarre, but it saved me a lot of frustration trying to remove those rivets
with a hand drill. I now have a perfect job. I'm riveting the spars back on
next weekend.
Joe in Oshkosh
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks Floyd=2C
This was the file I remeber=2Cbut I didn't save it.
No gussets that I can find in my kit.Not much effort to make.
Rob Taylor
601XL Melbourne Australia.
From: ashleyw@gvtc.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets
Rob
Check your kit again=2C they were included in mine.
But to answer your question file attached.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor
Sent: Saturday=2C February 13=2C 2010 1:50 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets
Can anyone help direct me to drawings for Alieron Gussets 65W2-5 and 65W2-6
?
I am doing the mods on the left wing and the gussets weren't supplied in th
e mod kit. I seem to recall seeing the drawings for these gussets some tim
e ago=2C being a modification to the alierons.
If I can get the size and thickness of these gussets I'll make them.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Rob Taylor
601 XL
Find your next place with Ninemsn pro='_new'>Looking for a place to rent
=2C share or buy? http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://fo
rums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
_________________________________________________________________
View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks Bill and Peter
Rob.
From: bill.pagan@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets
Hey Rob=2C
The gussets are shown on drawing 6-ZU-4
They are in the upgrade kit and on the inventory sheet I received
Bill Pagan
From: Robert Taylor <rwtaylorjar@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sat=2C February 13=2C 2010 2:50:11 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Alieron Gussets
Can anyone help direct me to drawings for Alieron Gussets 65W2-5 and 65W2-6
?
I am doing the mods on the left wing and the gussets weren't supplied in th
e mod kit. I seem to recall seeing the drawings for these gussets some tim
e ago=2C being a modification to the alierons.
If I can get the size and thickness of these gussets I'll make them.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Rob Taylor
601 XL
Find your next place with Ninemsn pro='_new'>Looking for a place to rent
=2C share or buy?
_________________________________________________________________
If it exists=2C you'll find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Centre Wing Spar |
I have dismantled my centre wing spar to do the mods.
The spar was supplied complete from Zenith in my slow build kit.
The hole sizes in 6W4-3 spar caps=2C which the 6 AN4 bolts go through=2Care
not 1/4". There 9/32".All 6 holes are the same any one else with this prob
lem?
Rob Taylor
601XL.
_________________________________________________________________
Looking for a place to rent=2C share or buy? Find your next place with nine
msn Property
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets |
William,=0A=0ADo you have any picture of the jig and rivet die you are usin
g?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: William Dominguez
<bill_dom@yahoo.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, February
13, 2010 8:24:29 AM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Upgrade kit and Solid Rive
ts=0A=0A=0ARivet squeezer and gun/bucking-bar are not the only way to dri
ve solid rivets to the spar. I'm using an harbor press, it works well and i
s the cheaper method. I created a jig that holds the spar in the right posi
tion and angle in relation to the harbor press.-=0A=0AWilliam-Dominguez
=0AZodiac 601XL Plans=0AMiami, Florida=0Ahttp://sites.google.com/site/billp
lane/=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: lwhitlow <ldwhitlow@
comcast.net>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, February 12, 2010
2:17:13 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Upgrade kit and Solid Rivets=0A=0A--> Z
enith-List message posted by: "lwhitlow" <ldwhitlow@comcast.net>=0A=0ASo I'
ve got the upgrade kit on hand. I've removed the solid rivets from the cent
er section and the left wing and I've removed the angle on the top of the w
ing spar.=0A=0ASoon I'm gonna have to put it all back together and I need s
ome advice.=0A=0AThere's no one around that has a rivet gun and I've never
bucked rivet one, so I'm in the position of having to buy the tools anyway
=0A=0AI'm actually leaning toward a rivet squeezer instead of a gun/bucking
bar.=0A=0Ait seems like the learning curve is way smaller with a squeezer
than a gun, and since I'm teaching myself on my spars I'd like to just get
it right the first time=0A=0AThe squeezer shown is a Atlantic Aircraft Tool
s Tandem Alligator 3" Deep Rivet Squeezer 1/4" Rivet Set Dies- Its a tand
em cylinder unit which means it has enough oomph to squeeze the spar rivets
and the jaws have enough room to reach around the angles at the top of the
spar=0A=0Aused its about $300=0A=0AComments ??? Concerns???=0A=0ALarry=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v
iewtopic.php?p=286180#286180=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://foru
ms.matronics.co; - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, Lis=0A=0A=0A
=======================0A=0A=0A
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|