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1. 02:13 AM - Re: MIT (Phil Maxson)
2. 03:01 AM - Re: MIT (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 04:19 AM - Alieron Trim (Peter W Johnson)
4. 04:23 AM - Re: MIT (Gary Ray)
5. 05:13 AM - Re: Alieron Trim (Scotsman)
6. 05:14 AM - Re: Alieron Trim (FLYaDIVE)
7. 07:02 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/13/10 (JohnKearney@att.net)
8. 09:08 AM - Re: Alieron Trim (DaveG601XL)
9. 03:44 PM - Re: Zenith601-List: Alieron Trim (Peter W Johnson)
10. 03:45 PM - Re: MIT (PatrickW)
11. 06:59 PM - Re: MIT (Ron Lendon)
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Congratulations! Quite an accomplishment.
Do not archive
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
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That's Great, Sabrina.
Congratulations.
Will you start there in the fall?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:06 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: MIT
Hey guys, I was accepted into MIT this evening!
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Hi Guys,
Having flown a few hours now, I find that, as expected, with full flap
deployed the elevator trim "bottoms out" before balanced trim is available.
I had a look at the LAA (UK) solution but found that my elevator trim tab is
already at max downward travel and butts up against the elevator. Changing
the tab horn would not make any difference to the travel available.
I have an O-200 fitted and expect there is a little more weight up front
than a Jab or similar.
What have others done? I am thinking of adding a tab to the existing trim
tab to increase its size, therefore providing more effect on the elevator.
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
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Sabrina
A lot is set in motion with that letter:
Elation, then Honor, Responsibility, Effort and Growth.
Congratulations: This is big.
You are on your way.
Gary Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:06 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: MIT
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| Subject: | Re: Alieron Trim |
quite a hassle but you could reset the angle of incidence of the horizontal stabiliser...j
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| Subject: | Re: Alieron Trim |
Peter:
A little bit of info from an experience I had. Granted this is not a
Zenith aircraft (RV-6).
Check the deployment of the flaps. Make sure they go DOWN and UP
equally. What I found was one flap deployed more than the other and a
small roll was induced.
Also had the same problem when the flaps were full UP.
Next thought: With the flaps deployed you may be getting BLANKETING of
the Horz Stab which makes the trim less or ineffective.
DOUBLE Check the amount of deployment. More is NOT always better.
Barry
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> Having flown a few hours now, I find that, as expected, with full flap
> deployed the elevator trim bottoms out before balanced trim is available.
>
>
> I had a look at the LAA (UK) solution but found that my elevator trim tab is
> already at max downward travel and butts up against the elevator. Changing
> the tab horn would not make any difference to the travel available.
>
>
> I have an O-200 fitted and expect there is a little more weight up front
> than a Jab or similar.
>
>
> What have others done? I am thinking of adding a tab to the existing trim
> tab to increase its size, therefore providing more effect on the elevator.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Peter
>
> Wonthaggi Australia
>
> http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/13/10 |
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| Subject: | Re: Alieron Trim |
Peter, I echo Scotsman's comment on possibly re-pitching the H-stab. But first,
in cruise flight, do you have a significant trim tab deflection?? I did.
I re-pitched the leading edge down until the trim tab was neutral in cruise and
it gave me more trim authority with flaps full down.
Good luck,
Dave G.
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David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
Upgraded 3/19/10
120+ hours and climbing!
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith601-List: Alieron Trim |
Thanks Guys,
I have the full trim tab but will add a tab to it and see how it goes. I
have full authority everywhere else except full flap on finals.
Cheers
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Martin
Sent: Friday, 14 May 2010 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Alieron Trim
--> Zenith601-List message posted by: Bryan Martin
<bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
I riveted a sheet of aluminum onto my trim tab that just about doubled its
area. The sheet is bent downward over the trailing edge of the trim tab to
provide even more trim. I have the original small trim tab that just spans
between two of the elevator ribs. I still can't trim out the plane with full
flaps unless I have a full load and aft CG, but I usually don't use full
flaps until short final anyway so I don't mind it much.
I also have a bungee cord attached to the stick that provides some nose up
trim. It's just enough to balance the weight of the elevator (the bungee
holds the elevator in the neutral position on the ground).
On May 14, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Peter W Johnson wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Having flown a few hours now, I find that, as expected, with full flap
deployed the elevator trim "bottoms out" before balanced trim is available.
>
> I had a look at the LAA (UK) solution but found that my elevator trim tab
is already at max downward travel and butts up against the elevator.
Changing the tab horn would not make any difference to the travel available.
>
> I have an O-200 fitted and expect there is a little more weight up front
than a Jab or similar.
>
> What have others done? I am thinking of adding a tab to the existing trim
tab to increase its size, therefore providing more effect on the elevator.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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That's wonderful news, Sabrina. :D
- Pat
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Patrick
XL/650/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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davgray(at)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Sabrina
>
> A lot is set in motion with that letter:
> Elation, then Honor, Responsibility, Effort and Growth.
>
> Congratulations: This is big.
> You are on your way.
>
> Gary Ray
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> ---
Sabrina,
Gary Ray said it all, Congratulations!
And to beat Ben, Not Bad For A GIRL ;-)
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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