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1. 06:40 AM - Flying on the edge of wetness (Larry McFarland)
2. 07:52 AM - Re: Jabiru Jamboree (Tony Graziano)
3. 08:09 AM - Re: Flying on the edge of wetness (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
4. 09:32 AM - Re: Flying on the edge of wetness (R. Johnson)
5. 10:56 AM - Re: Flying on the edge of wetness ()
6. 05:04 PM - Re: Flying on the edge of wetness (n801bh@netzero.com)
7. 06:41 PM - Source for battery cable? (Craig Payne)
8. 06:51 PM - Re: Source for battery cable? (jaybannist@cs.com)
9. 07:11 PM - Re: Source for battery cable? (Paul Mulwitz)
10. 09:05 PM - Re: Source for battery cable? (MHerder)
11. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Source for battery cable? (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Flying on the edge of wetness |
Hi Guys,
I fly mostly good weather, but theres been a few times Ive had to fly
thru light showers to get home. The greater concern is getting into too
much rain. Id think this was possible, but a few of our Chapter 75 have
flown in a car wash type rain that put them on the gages for a few
minutes. Does anyone know the limits of the ignition system wires and
spark plugs? I fly the Stratus Subaru in my 601 and am just now looking
at my plugs and wires and wondering if theres much difference between
wet aircraft plugs and mine. Anyone knowledgeable?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Jamboree |
Pete,
I am scheduled to visit my grandkids in Md that weekend.
Hope you have a huge turnout and another event sometime in the future that I can
fly down for.
Tail winds and CAVU,
Tony Graziano
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 2, 2010, at 4:39 PM, "Pete Krotje" <pete@usjabiru.com> wrote:
Join Jabiru USA for our first Jabiru Fly In and Open House at Shelbyville TN
(SYI). All are welcome!
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June 11-13, 2010
Weekend Schedule
Friday, June 11th
1pm Open house-Doors are open for you to join us and tour our factory.
3pm Engine Maintenance Session Review the basics of how to maintain and
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5pm Cook out begins Hamburgers, Hot Dogs, Brats, Chips, Drinks
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9:30am Engine Maintenance Session For those that missed it Friday.
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11am-1pm Lunch is served. Option to fly to close locations or have BBQ here.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying on the edge of wetness |
Larry,
I wouldn't fly any automotive type engine thru moisture as it will produce
steam and that might cause your coils to stop working. The difference (as
you are probably aware of) between a auto conversion and an aircraft eng
ine
is that the spark voltage is much higher in an auto type ignition.
Jeff
In a message dated 6/3/2010 9:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
larry@macsmachine.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larry@macsmachine.co
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Hi Guys,
I fly mostly good weather, but there=99s been a few times I
=99ve had to fly
thru light showers to get home. The greater concern is getting into too
much rain. I=99d think this was possible, but a few of our Chapter
75 have
flown in a =9Ccar wash=9D type rain that put them on the gage
s for a few
minutes. Does anyone know the limits of the ignition system wires and
spark plugs? I fly the Stratus Subaru in my 601 and am just now looking
at my plugs and wires and wondering if there=99s much difference be
tween
wet aircraft plugs and mine. Anyone knowledgeable?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flying on the edge of wetness |
I used to run Chrysler 413 and Olds 350 V-8's on irrigation systems.
The throttles were set at 2700 rpm and left to run 24/7 for several
weeks, even thru rain storms.
We just made sure we had a good boot seal on the plug and dist. cap.
The only engine that gave me problems was a 605-M&M, it had a mag, would
short out in a heavy fog.
Russell
I wouldn't fly any automotive type engine thru moisture as it will
produce steam and that might cause your coils to stop working. The
difference (as you are probably aware of) between a auto conversion and
an aircraft engine is that the spark voltage is much higher in an auto
type ignition.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Flying on the edge of wetness |
Larry, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Water may be the enemy of an
engine, but if you have good boot seals on the plugs, your distributor
wire connections are all well sealed, and your distributor cap is sealed
to the body, you shouldn't have a problem. Engines have been run under
water, with just intake and exhaust snorkels poking out. Just look for
possible places to short out, and seal them with silicone goop. Also,
remember that your engine will boil off any spray that gets in, and,
even if you lose a cylinder, it will come back pretty quickly due to
engine heat.
If you want to do a test, you might have somebody spray a hose into your
prop, but only at LOW rpm. Water can eat a prop's leading edge at higher
speeds.
Regards, Paul R
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry McFarland<mailto:larry@macsmachine.com>
To: zenith-list<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com> ;
aeroelectric-list<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:18 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Flying on the edge of wetness
<larry@macsmachine.com<mailto:larry@macsmachine.com>>
Hi Guys,
I fly mostly good weather, but there=92s been a few times I=92ve had
to fly
thru light showers to get home. The greater concern is getting into
too
much rain. I=92d think this was possible, but a few of our Chapter 75
have
flown in a =93car wash=94 type rain that put them on the gages for a
few
minutes. Does anyone know the limits of the ignition system wires and
spark plugs? I fly the Stratus Subaru in my 601 and am just now
looking
at my plugs and wires and wondering if there=92s much difference
between
wet aircraft plugs and mine. Anyone knowledgeable?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at
www.macsmachine.com<http://www.macsmachine.com/>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Zenith-List>
http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
on>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying on the edge of wetness |
I fly my Zenith 801 with a auto engine conversion through rain every tim
e I can I love flying in it, makes for a smooth flight. It is a perfect
way to wash it, to remove all the bugs and the rain is soft water so NO
water spots !!
I do have a very tight ignition system to prevent any moisture from gett
ing into critical areas and I have flown through rain that was pretty da
rn heavy. YMMV............ As for the idea of high voltage creating st
eam,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Geez
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Flying on the edge of wetness
Larry, I wouldn't fly any automotive type engine thru moisture as it wil
l produce steam and that might cause your coils to stop working. The dif
ference (as you are probably aware of) between a auto conversion and an
aircraft engine is that the spark voltage is much higher in an auto typ
e ignition. Jeff In a message dated 6/3/2010 9:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylig
Larry McFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Hi Guys,
I fly mostly good weather, but there=99s been a few times I=99
ve had to fly
thru light showers to get home. The greater concern is getting into too
much rain. I=99d think this was possible, but a few of our Chapter
75 have
flown in a =9Ccar wash=9D type rain that put them on the gag
es for a few
minutes. Does anyone know the limits of the ignition system wires and
spark plugs? I fly the Stratus Subaru in my 601 and am just now looking
at my plugs and wires and wondering if there=99s much difference b
etween
wet aircraft plugs and mine. Anyone knowledgeable?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at ================
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| Subject: | Source for battery cable? |
I'm looking for a source for 4 gauge battery cable (red and black). I could
use welding cable. B&C appears to only sell pre-made, terminated lengths.
WayTek has a minimum of 100 ft. SteinAir doesn't list any. Many list 4 gauge
Tefzel but that isn't what I want. I could buy a pair of jumper cables but
I'm not certain on the quality and composition of the insulation.
Any leads?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Source for battery cable? |
Grainger has the battery cable you are looking for, but only black. I thi
nk it comes in a box with 25' of cable.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 8:41 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: Source for battery cable?
I'm looking for a source for 4 gauge battery cable (red and black). I coul
d use welding cable. B&C appears to only sell pre-made, terminated lengths
. WayTek has a minimum of 100 ft. SteinAir doesn't list any. Many list 4
gauge Tefzel but that isn't what I want. I could buy a pair of jumper cab
les but I'm not certain on the quality and composition of the insulation.
Any leads?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Source for battery cable? |
Hi Craig,
I got some at the local hardware store. They were happy to cut it and sell
by the foot. They also had copper crimp terminals that I used, but I had to
make my own crimp dies.
Paul
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Source for battery cable?
I'm looking for a source for 4 gauge battery cable (red and black). I could
use welding cable. B&C appears to only sell pre-made, terminated lengths.
WayTek has a minimum of 100 ft. SteinAir doesn't list any. Many list 4 gauge
Tefzel but that isn't what I want. I could buy a pair of jumper cables but
I'm not certain on the quality and composition of the insulation.
Any leads?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Source for battery cable? |
I'm sure if you called B and C they'd sell it to you without the ends. I priced
it and by the time I would have bought the right crimper it would have cost
me more to fabricate them myself so it was a no brainer for my situation... Granted
yours may be different, but I was and am happy with what B and C provided.
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| Subject: | Re: Source for battery cable? |
I'll give them a call. The problem is I don't know where my battery will end
up (W&B adjustments). But I can't calculate W&B until the wings are on and
I'm wiring the rest now. So I want to order enough to reach to the tail of
my 701. But the battery could end up behind the passenger seat.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MHerder
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:05 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Source for battery cable?
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I'm sure if you called B and C they'd sell it to you without the ends. I
priced it and by the time I would have bought the right crimper it would
have cost me more to fabricate them myself so it was a no brainer for my
situation... Granted yours may be different, but I was and am happy with
what B and C provided.
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One Rivet at a Time!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299976#299976
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