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2. 07:57 AM - Chat Reminder (George Race)
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4. 10:34 AM - Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question (dgardea(at)gmail.com)
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7. 09:49 PM - Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question (lwhitlow)
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| Subject: | Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question |
Larry,
Struggled this past weekend with the exact same interference from the angle on
the existing rear center spar web. I was just on the phone with Caleb at Zenith
and after describing the problem he claims I should not have any problem with
the fit and that I must be putting parts in out of order. My initial question
was whether to pitch 20 on the solid rivets was correct as it will likely hit
existing holes on the top flange of this rear center spar web. He said not a
problem if it did since there's a double on both sides sandwiching that part.
I intend to take my vixen file remove what's necessary from the rear center spar
web angle to eliminate the interference and allow me to get to bolts, spacers
and washers in easily.
Dave
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601XL - Corvair
working on wiring panel and upgrade kit
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| Subject: | Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question |
Dave
You have to tape the bolts so they are just outside the washers and then
place the center section upside down on the bench and clamp the top to the
bench and with a little force push the other half down until the bolts line
up and then tap the heads of the bolts with a hammer to get them started and
then it will align.
I have done 7 of them and no trimming was required.
If anyone has any questions they can call me 502-644-8123.
Jeff
In a message dated 6/7/2010 10:38:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dgardea@gmail.com writes:
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Larry,
Struggled this past weekend with the exact same interference from the
angle on the existing rear center spar web. I was just on the phone with Caleb
at Zenith and after describing the problem he claims I should not have any
problem with the fit and that I must be putting parts in out of order. My
initial question was whether to pitch 20 on the solid rivets was correct as
it will likely hit existing holes on the top flange of this rear center
spar web. He said not a problem if it did since there's a double on both sides
sandwiching that part.
I intend to take my vixen file remove what's necessary from the rear
center spar web angle to eliminate the interference and allow me to get to
bolts, spacers and washers in easily.
Dave
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Dave Gardea
601XL - Corvair
working on wiring panel and upgrade kit
http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
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| Subject: | Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question |
Jeff,
Thanks for the tip! I will try your approach.
Dave
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Dave Gardea
601XL - Corvair
working on wiring panel and upgrade kit
http://home.comcast.net/~davegardea/
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George your link doesn't work for me, perhaps because I read this list online,
not in email. So let me see if it works this way.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question |
I rolled the edge of the rear half slightly and it made a nice fit without loosing
any more edge distance.
Dan
lwhitlow wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm working on the center spar upgrade section and I seem to be having a brain
cramp
>
> I've drilled and fitted all the doublers and I'm at the point in the photo guide
where you put the two haves back together and bolt so you and drill out the
1/4 holes for the outboard spacers (page 16,17,18 of the upgrade photo assembly
guide)
>
> Now that its .125 wider the top flange doesn't want to fit under the top cap/
Seat support of the other half of the spar. The flange is pushed out by the larger
spacers and I can't get it to go up tight.
>
> OK what's the trick?? Do I trim the flange a bit (edge distance no issue my
spars holes are very close to the bend). or to I put a slight bend in the spar
web to push the flange back to create more room
>
> I admit I'm a bit baffled as to how Zenith expected to widen the Center spar
gap by .125 and still have the holes on top line up. What am I missing??
>
> Larry Whitlow
> N69102 (reserved) 601XLB (B in progress)
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| Subject: | Re: Center Spar Upgrade Question |
dgardea(at)gmail.com wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Struggled this past weekend with the exact same interference from the angle on
the existing rear center spar web. I was just on the phone with Caleb at Zenith
and after describing the problem he claims I should not have any problem with
the fit and that I must be putting parts in out of order. My initial question
was whether the pitch 20 on the solid rivets was correct as it will likely
hit existing holes on the top flange of this rear center spar web. He said not
a problem if it did since there's a double on both sides sandwiching that part.
In fact, he said you could even cut that flange off but it would of course
screw up the spar angle.
>
> I intend to take my vixen file and remove what little is necessary from the existing
rear center spar web angle to eliminate the interference with the top
spar cap and allow me to get to bolts, spacers and washers in easily.
>
> Dave
Well, I did some light tapping with a dead blow mallet and it popped into place.
So I think thats OK
But I may have created a new issue. I saw on the prints that the new rivet line
on the top of the center spar is Pitch 20. Are we not using the previous rivet
holes on the top of the spar ?? Or is the a new line and the old holes are
covered by the doubler? If we aren't using the old holes on the top flange then
I'm gonna have to get a new doubler cause I backdrilled the thing from the
old holes in the top of the spar
Let me know If I need to call Roger and order a part
Larry
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