---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/13/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: First flight of N316JL - engine mount question. (FLYaDIVE) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:22 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Re: First flight of N316JL - engine mount question. From: FLYaDIVE Klaus: Let's clarify a definition: When you are talking TRIM... Are you talking FIXED TRIM or Adjustable Trim while Flying? Since these are simple planes I am thinking FIXED TRIM TABS. If you are talking in-flight adjustable trim then the whole purpose of this thread is moot. Since Jerry can just trim out the heavy wing. If you are talking FIXED TRIM TABS then... >From what you are saying is adjust for glide. But what happens to the trim at cruse/S&L? So what is the next step - Adjust it half way between Glide and Cruse? Then that way you are OFF/OUT OF TRIM in both conditions! Welcome to the world of sloppy flying in either condition. You would not be trimed for Glide or Cruse. And talk about workload. Try making a crosswind landing in 20 Kts 90 degrees to the runway when a wing wants to drop. Especially when it is the downwind wing. [From your post] So you are descending from 12500 to 6000 That is ONLY 5500 to the ground which should take you 11 minutes. You are saying that you would trim your FIXED TABS for a flight of 11 Minutes Vs the 1:30 Hr flight to get there.... Where is your workload reduction? There is NO reason to try to trim a plane for GLIDE. YES - You better trim a GLIDER for glide. Other areas have to be addressed on Jerry's plane. And I'm sure he will, as he wants a hands off flying abilities. Barry ======================================================= > Well, looking at the behavior with a balanced load and during > a glide when there is no engine torque > tells whether the wings have the same incidence, which in my > opinion should be settled first. Also, if the aileron trim is > adjustable, as it is apparently in Jerry's case and also in my > plane, then retrimming for power-off glide, during long descents, > lightens the workload. I do it every time when I cross the Sandia > Mountains at 12,500ft from the east and descend to the Albuquerque > airport which is at around 6,000 ft. > > Happy flying, > > Klaus > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.