Zenith-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/29/10


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 11:08 AM - AOPA~~AARP (EMAproducts@aol.com)
     2. 02:33 PM - CATTCO PROPS 3 Vs 2 (FLYaDIVE)
     3. 04:19 PM - FW: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. (Jeff)
     4. 04:46 PM - Upgrade question ref. 6-ZU-4-1 (AZFlyer)
     5. 08:49 PM - Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. (Sabrina)
     6. 10:31 PM - Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. (Jeff)
     7. 11:04 PM - Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. (J.T. Machin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:08:19 AM PST US
    From: EMAproducts@aol.com
    Subject: AOPA~~AARP
    I'm also agreeing with all of you, AOPA & AARP sure don't do anything for us homebuilders, LSA, or antique lovers who are trying to enjoy our hobby, and in some cases our occupation. I do a lot of Flight Instructor Refresher Clinics and fewer are members of AOPA it seems like yearly. The million $ plus just doesn't fit in most of our budgets. However that sure don't mean we don't love flying and aviation. My profession,hobby, occupation, and recreation for 50 years. 1. 06:01 AM - Re: AOPA membership (Larry McFarland) 2. 06:59 AM - Re: AOPA membership (purplemoon99@bellsouth.net) 3. 07:52 AM - Re: AOPA membership (Jim Belcher) Elbie Mendenhall _www.riteangle.com_ (http://www.riteangle.com)


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    Time: 02:33:20 PM PST US
    Subject: CATTCO PROPS 3 Vs 2
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Hello Gaggle: I am looking for some information on CATTCO PROPS. This is their web site: http://www.cattoprops.com/index.html Is anyone using their props? Info needed is: Three Blade Prop Vs Two Blade Prop. Is a 54" Pitch CATTCO equivalent to a 62" Pitch Sensinich? Why is there so much of a difference in pitch call-out between the two? I say this because a 54" is what was recommended / suggested Vs a 62". I did some basic calculations and for the same engine and going from a two blade to a three blade the pitch should be closer to a 60". I do not want a climb prop - I want a cruse prop. Does anyone have a spread sheet program or a web site for doing calculations? ANY IDEAS? Thanks Gaggle- Barry


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    Time: 04:19:18 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues.
    Sabrina, The report says: "FAA review of the in-flight failures did not indicate a single root cause, but instead implicated the potential combination of several design and operation aspects. Our preliminary assessments focused on the strength and stability of the wing structure. Further analysis during the special review found the loads the manufacturer used to design the structure do not meet the design standards for a 1,320 lb (600kg) airplane. Static load test data verifies our conclusion. The special review also identified issues with the airplane's flutter characteristics, stick force gradients, airspeed calibration, and operating limitations." There is nothing new here. Their review "did not indicate a single root cause" and further, the cause was determined to be "the potential combination of several design and operation aspects." That means that they couldn't find the cause and are just speculating on what the real "potential" situation is among a whole host of possible factors. This topic is really getting tiring. Please give it a rest. Believe what you want to believe, but leave others to their own conclusions. Jeff Davidson


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    Time: 04:46:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Upgrade question ref. 6-ZU-4-1
    From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@aol.com>
    After installing the additional "aileron control stop" I find my stick can now only travel approximately 1/2" for aileron control. Is this what others have found or will I need to cut a great deal of material from the edges of the 50 mm slot? Have not connected the aileron cables yet... just curious. Hardly seems like enough travel! Caleb tells me amount is different for everybody...depends on the installation...? Thanks for feedback, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, &quot;the second mouse gets the cheese&quot;! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306738#306738


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    Time: 08:49:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues.
    From: "Sabrina" <chicago2paris@msn.com>
    "This topic is really getting tiring. Please give it a rest." Jeff Davidson Jeff: Why then, did you feel the need to move the post from the limited 601 site to the entire Zenith list? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306775#306775 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/z_462.jpg


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    Time: 10:31:37 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues.
    Sabrina, You are no longer a cute 14 year little girl with a great future in engineering. Quit finding new things to harp on. Jeff Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sabrina Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:47 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. "This topic is really getting tiring. Please give it a rest." Jeff Davidson Jeff: Why then, did you feel the need to move the post from the limited 601 site to the entire Zenith list? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306775#306775 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/z_462.jpg


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    Time: 11:04:37 PM PST US
    From: "J.T. Machin" <stormyflight@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues.
    Well, I've met her and I think she has a great future in engineering. I would hire her in a second. You got my number, Sabrina. Jim --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Jeff <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net> wrote: > From: Jeff <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH on 601xl update issues. > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 10:29 PM > "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net> > > Sabrina, > You are no longer a cute 14 year > little girl with a great future in > engineering. Quit finding new things to harp on. > Jeff > > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of Sabrina > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:47 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith601-List: Re: Report from OSH > on 601xl update > issues. > > > "This topic is really getting tiring. Please give it a > rest." Jeff Davidson > > Jeff: Why then, did you feel the need to move the > post from the limited 601 > site to the entire Zenith list? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306775#306775 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/z_462.jpg > > > > > > > > > > Email Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > >




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