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1. 03:38 AM - Re: Inspection Plates (Jeff Davidson)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: Inspection Plates (Peter W Johnson)
3. 12:59 PM - Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused (Dave Disney)
4. 01:32 PM - Re: Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused (Lawrence Webber)
5. 03:23 PM - Re: Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused (Jim Belcher)
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| Subject: | Inspection Plates |
Peter,
I can take a couple shots of them next weekend. I live an hour away from
the plane. I'll be happy to send them to you then.
Jeff
>
>Jeff,
>
>Do you have any pictures of how they look. I was considering something similar
myself.
>
>Peter
>Wonthaggi Australia
>http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
>
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| Subject: | Inspection Plates |
Jeff,
Thanks
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Davidson
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Inspection Plates
Peter,
I can take a couple shots of them next weekend. I live an hour away from
the plane. I'll be happy to send them to you then.
Jeff
>
>Jeff,
>
>Do you have any pictures of how they look. I was considering something similar
myself.
>
>Peter
>Wonthaggi Australia
>http://zodiac.cpc-world.com
>
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| Subject: | Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused |
Hi,
I'm a newby to Zodiacs. I was given a ride in a Rotax powered 601 HD and found
it an enchanting aircraft. It took off from a relatively short grass strip (Westonzoyland
for those in the UK) with two pretty beefy blokes on board.
I loved the central column (my Airtourer has the same arrangement) and after an
hours flying it had only used 15 litres of mogas - excellent. My Airtourer is
aerobatic so has pretty sharp handling but the Zodiac was up there with it and
had the advantage of better load carrying qualities, better short field performance
and much better fuel consumption, whats more it's an LAA aircraft rather
than CofA.
I've started to research the type looking at old magazine flight tests and scrolling
around on the Zenair web site etc. But I'm a little confused. I know the
difference between the HD and the HDS, I know the XL was a new design that has
not been without its problems, but for the life of me I cant figure out the
differencies between the XL and the 650 other than the canopy - can somebody please
enlighten me or tell me where I can find out the information.
Whilst I'm showing my ignorance perhaps some kind sole can offer a view on the
right aircraft for me. I do not need to comply with LSA (I have a full PPL and
medical so do not need to be restricted by 1320 MAUW and 120 knots). I want an
aircraft that is 'buildable' preferably in metal maybe as a plans built, it
must be powered by either a Rotax 912 or possibly a Jabriu 3300. Weight carrying
is more important than speed and it must be able to operate from a 500/600
meter grass strip. I know that some of the zenair range fit the bill.
Regards
Dave
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309021#309021
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| Subject: | Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused |
Hi Dave welcome aboard the best site to check out the differences betw
een 601xl
and 650 is zenithair.com you can see all the changes i hope you chose the
zenith aircraft
its a great company to deal with even 10 years down the road . good l
uck
Larry
> Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac - 601 hd/hds=2C xl=2C 650 - Confused
> From: davedisney@yahoo.co.uk
> Date: Mon=2C 16 Aug 2010 12:58:38 -0700
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hi=2C
> I'm a newby to Zodiacs. I was given a ride in a Rotax powered 601 HD and
found it an enchanting aircraft. It took off from a relatively short grass
strip (Westonzoyland for those in the UK) with two pretty beefy blokes on b
oard.
>
> I loved the central column (my Airtourer has the same arrangement) and af
ter an hours flying it had only used 15 litres of mogas - excellent. My Air
tourer is aerobatic so has pretty sharp handling but the Zodiac was up ther
e with it and had the advantage of better load carrying qualities=2C better
short field performance and much better fuel consumption=2C whats more it'
s an LAA aircraft rather than CofA.
>
> I've started to research the type looking at old magazine flight tests an
d scrolling around on the Zenair web site etc. But I'm a little confused. I
know the difference between the HD and the HDS=2C I know the XL was a new
design that has not been without its problems=2C but for the life of me I c
ant figure out the differencies between the XL and the 650 other than the c
anopy - can somebody please enlighten me or tell me where I can find out th
e information.
>
> Whilst I'm showing my ignorance perhaps some kind sole can offer a view o
n the right aircraft for me. I do not need to comply with LSA (I have a ful
l PPL and medical so do not need to be restricted by 1320 MAUW and 120 knot
s). I want an aircraft that is 'buildable' preferably in metal maybe as a p
lans built=2C it must be powered by either a Rotax 912 or possibly a Jabriu
3300. Weight carrying is more important than speed and it must be able to
operate from a 500/600 meter grass strip. I know that some of the zenair ra
nge fit the bill.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309021#309021
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac - 601 hd/hds, xl, 650 - Confused |
Dave, it seems to me the big difference is the canopy. There's a little "Beef-
up" here and there, in the 650, but I'm not sure how important that really is,
with the modification kit out, and all but mandated. I think the mod kit pretty
much incorporated the beef-up.
The other difference I see is that the XL is now a plans-only design, but the
650 is available as a kit. The cost of the 650 kit was a jump up from the cost
of the XL kit. If an XL were built from scratch, I'm not sure how that would
compare to a 650 built from scratch.
I didn't personally like the 650 canopy, because there is nothing between the
baggage area and the canopy. That means the baggage will scuff the canopy.
Others liked the increased headroom of the 650.
You pays your money, you makes your choice....
On Monday 16 August 2010 14:58:38 you wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm a newby to Zodiacs. I was given a ride in a Rotax powered 601 HD and
> found it an enchanting aircraft. It took off from a relatively short grass
> strip (Westonzoyland for those in the UK) with two pretty beefy blokes on
> board.
>
> I loved the central column (my Airtourer has the same arrangement) and
> after an hours flying it had only used 15 litres of mogas - excellent. My
> Airtourer is aerobatic so has pretty sharp handling but the Zodiac was up
> there with it and had the advantage of better load carrying qualities,
> better short field performance and much better fuel consumption, whats
> more it's an LAA aircraft rather than CofA.
>
> I've started to research the type looking at old magazine flight tests and
> scrolling around on the Zenair web site etc. But I'm a little confused. I
> know the difference between the HD and the HDS, I know the XL was a new
> design that has not been without its problems, but for the life of me I
> cant figure out the differencies between the XL and the 650 other than the
> canopy - can somebody please enlighten me or tell me where I can find out
> the information.
>
> Whilst I'm showing my ignorance perhaps some kind sole can offer a view on
> the right aircraft for me. I do not need to comply with LSA (I have a full
> PPL and medical so do not need to be restricted by 1320 MAUW and 120
> knots). I want an aircraft that is 'buildable' preferably in metal maybe
> as a plans built, it must be powered by either a Rotax 912 or possibly a
> Jabriu 3300. Weight carrying is more important than speed and it must be
> able to operate from a 500/600 meter grass strip. I know that some of the
> zenair range fit the bill.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
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