---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/02/10: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:38 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/01/10 (Matt) 2. 10:17 AM - Re: 601XL Corvair combo for sale $10,000 (Tim Juhl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/01/10 From: Matt Zenith-List Digest Server wrote: >* > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > >Today's complete Zenith-List Digest can also be found in either of the >two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >of the Zenith-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >such as Notepad or with a web browser. > >HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-10-01&Archive=Zenith > >Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-10-01&Archive=Zenith > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 10/01/10: 7 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > >Today's Message Index: >---------------------- > > 1. 05:31 AM - AMP? (FLYaDIVE) > 2. 06:53 AM - Re: CopperState (Jerry) > 3. 07:00 AM - Re: glue for rubber floor mat? (Peter Chapman) > 4. 11:54 AM - Re: Copperstate (Dr. Andrew Elliott) > 5. 02:49 PM - Re: 601XL Corvair combo for sale $10,000 (aprazer) > 6. 11:04 PM - Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) > 7. 11:10 PM - Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) > > > >________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 05:31:31 AM PST US >Subject: Zenith-List: AMP? >From: FLYaDIVE > >Dan: > >Your wire runs are nice and short. That is in your favor. >But! Don't ya just hate it... There is always a BUT, some times a BUTT! >The gage of your wire is small. >Why do I say that? In the winter you can draw around 250 to 350 AMPS during >cranking. >Cold weather puts a heave load on your engine. >In the summer the draw is probably 100 to 150 AMPS. >These numbers vary with Temperature & Engine Compression as well as wire run >lengths. >Below is a chart that shows AWG Vs AMP. > >http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Wire-Gauge_Ampacity > >You will notice that even for a mer 100 AMP draw you should be using 2 AWG. >Now if you LQQK at the chart, 6 AWG does have a 101 AMP rating in free air. >AND some may argue that a single run of wire going to the contactor ( I like >that term) and then the starter IS IN FREE AIR. >BUT! What about the HEAT from the engine in the summer after a flight? >I know, I know I'm getting nit picky ... And your next question is: ># 2 AWG STILL does not cover the 250 to 350 AMPS you mentioned for cranking. >TRUE! AND neither does your contactor... What you are betting on is the >SHORT time (10 Seconds Max.and that is too long) the system will be >activated. >SOoooo, long story short. Go to the larger AWG and don't be boarder line. >I fully understand the additional cost and time acquiring the parts. > >One other option would be to run multiple lengths of the # 6 ... But, there >you will have problems fitting the stack of lugs on the terminals as well as >the difficulty in routing the stiff wire bundle. And I would bet the weight >would be more than a single run or # 2. > >Remember # 2 is minimum. > >Barry > >________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 06:53:03 AM PST US >From: Jerry >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CopperState > > >Mike >N316JL plans on being there. 601HDS 912. >Jerry >---- Michael Daniels wrote: >> Any Zeniths going to CopperSate Fly-In > >________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:00:55 AM PST US >From: Peter Chapman >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: glue for rubber floor mat? > > >Thanks for the ideas. > >I may go with velcro, as I've never liked the idea of gluing the mat >down too permanently. > > >Peter Chapman >Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC > > >________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 11:54:55 AM PST US >From: " Dr. Andrew Elliott" >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Copperstate > >I'll be there. > > >Andy Elliott > >N601GE/Z601XL/TD/Corvair > >250 hrs, wings still on! > > >________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 02:49:02 PM PST US >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Corvair combo for sale $10,000 >From: "aprazer" > > >Larry, >Since you have a deposit on the bird, I'll pass on taking a look. >Please let me know if the deal falls through. >Thank you, >Mack > >-------- >The poh-oh-unemployed farm boy from Idaho > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314357#314357 > > >________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > >Time: 11:04:26 PM PST US >From: Matt Dralle >Subject: Zenith-List: Official Zenith-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) > > >Dear Listers, > >Please read over the Zenith-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. 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