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1. 02:49 AM - Re: flaps (decorte johnny)
2. 12:40 PM - Rivets (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
3. 02:37 PM - Chat Room (George Race)
4. 07:32 PM - Re: Question about Riveting tand the XL Upgrade (japhillipsga@aol.com)
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ok will do thank you
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From: JohnDRead@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: flaps
Johnny;
I have attached the 750 parts catalog which shows on page
9 how the linear actuator is connected to the flaps. It should not be
difficult to install a linear actuator to the flap actuator tube of the
701. I have attached a picture of the 701 controls that should help. I
think it should be possible to remove the flap actuator tube and attach
a linear actuator to the same place that the actuator rod was connected
to. do not archive.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
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Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 10/30/2010 9:35:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
sanyu@wanadoo.fr writes:
hello everybody i am from france and fly the 701 //rotax912- 80 hp
since more then 1250 hr now
one question to the 701 pilots and owners
i like to modified my manual operated flaps to electric operated
flaps
if posibli i like to have some comments from the 701 flyers and also
from people who have done this modification on the 701
ps sorry for the bad englisch
decorte johnny / france
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Jeff,
We have "Upgraded" 2 XL's and learned early on that it takes a 4X gun and a 5#
bucking bar to set the #6 rivets. You may be able to borrow a 4X gun from an EAA
member near you. Most of them are being stored in a box somewhere. don't forget
to oil it often.
Bobby
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Riveting tand the XL Upgrade |
Jeff, I just finished my wings and I used bolts. Easy and better.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Steele <rsteele@rjsit.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Question about Riveting tand the XL Upgrade
My wings aren't closed so I could just lay the spars on the table. This
doesn't apply if you are doing this on partially assembled wings.
At the suggestion of my EAA tech counsoler, here's what I did, and they ca
me out perfectly.
I used the 1 ton arbor press from Harbor Freight ($50) which my counselor
loaned me. I drilled the "table" to accept the rivet "cup".
Polish is the bottom of the press. Lay the spar on over the table with th
e rivet head down in the "cup". Lower the press down onto the rive and ap
ply about as much pressure as you can and then hit with a sledge. I used
a 4 pounder. It takes 4 or 5 blows per rivet. I screwed up two when I
got in a hurry, but all the rest came out perfectly. I'd say for someon
e with no experience, the is the cheapest and most foolproof way to set th
ese rivets.
Oh, I also bought a 1/4lb of 1" rivets and a rivet cutter from ACS and use
d these for practice on Home Depot aluminum until I was confident in the
process.
Ron
On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey J Paris wrote:
Hello Zenith Comunity,
Today I had my friend George an experienced RV-6 builder come over to my
hanger and help me set rivets for my CH601XL upgrade project. We were us
ing a 3X rivet gun and a 2.5 lb. bucking bar we had little problem shootin
g the solid MS20470AD-5-11 rivets on the center spar. However, when we tu
rned our attention to the -6/3/16" Diameter rivets for the wing spar upgra
de we were having a difficult time making the shop heads the correct diame
ter and the manufactured head on the rivet was beat up as well.
Overall, the rivets were not acceptable to us: Anyways we took our quest
ions over to our local DAR friend and he advised that probably a 4X and mo
re likely a 5X gun matched with at least a 4-5 lb. bucking bar would do th
e job satisfactorily. Well my problem lies in the fact that I do not have
a 4or 5X gun available and the puneumatic rivet squeezer we borrowed from
the DAR could not cleat the newly installed spar angle for the mod.
I guess we are looking at ordering a mess of bolt hardware from ACSpruce
if I can't find an easier and acceptable way to set these rivets; has any
one else out there had the same problem? Are your rivets within acceptabl
e aircraft grade standards? I'd be interested in finding out a bit more.
Cheers,
Jeff Paris CH601XL grounded for B Mods Jab 3300 #6-4839 had 300 fun fil
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