---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/02/10: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:59 AM - Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (ronlee) 2. 02:20 PM - Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (DaveG601XL) 3. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (Craig Payne) 4. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (FLYaDIVE) 5. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (FLYaDIVE) 6. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" (Paul Mulwitz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" From: "ronlee" When I was in the work force as a welder we kept our welding rods in an old refrigerator with a light bulb for heat and to keep the moisture away. It didn't take but a 100 watt bulb to make the rods so hot you couldn't handle them with bare hands. I do think one would have to have some kind of thermostat control to keep things from getting too hot. -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317886#317886 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:27 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" From: "DaveG601XL" I kind of forgot about my box question from a few years back. To follow up, I made a simple 3'X3'X2' box out of plywood and lumber left over from my Zenith shipping crates. A 40 or 60 watt light bulb works great to keep the insides above freezing here is Ohio. There is only one problem.....when the bulb burns out, it does not call me on the phone to say it burned out. :( If you just leave it on 24/7, like I did, it takes two standard 2000 hour bulbs to last a winter. Since I have miss-judged the bulb replacement timing both winters, I froze everything in the box solid. I will still use it this winter, but have already taken the things sensitive to freezing home. I will not use them anyway in the winter, so why leave them there. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Upgraded 3/19/10 160+ hours and climbing! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317896#317896 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:09 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" String two bulbs is series. With half the voltage they should last forever. Or use a CFL ;-) -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveG601XL Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" I kind of forgot about my box question from a few years back. To follow up, I made a simple 3'X3'X2' box out of plywood and lumber left over from my Zenith shipping crates. A 40 or 60 watt light bulb works great to keep the insides above freezing here is Ohio. There is only one problem.....when the bulb burns out, it does not call me on the phone to say it burned out. :( If you just leave it on 24/7, like I did, it takes two standard 2000 hour bulbs to last a winter. Since I have miss-judged the bulb replacement timing both winters, I froze everything in the box solid. I will still use it this winter, but have already taken the things sensitive to freezing home. I will not use them anyway in the winter, so why leave them there. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Upgraded 3/19/10 160+ hours and climbing! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317896#317896 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" From: FLYaDIVE Gaggle: Take a LQQK in GRANGER or McMaster. They have all sorts of heating elements and some even come with thermostat controls. They are rated in WATTS and BTU's. Something like the TAPE PIPE WRAP can be mounted on ALL the vertical walls of the box and surround the items in heat; with an external temp control. Barry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" From: FLYaDIVE OR use a 220 Volt Bulb in a 110 line. Barry On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > String two bulbs is series. With half the voltage they should last forever. > > Or use a CFL ;-) > > -- Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveG601XL > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:16 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" > > > I kind of forgot about my box question from a few years back. To follow > up, > I made a simple 3'X3'X2' box out of plywood and lumber left over from my > Zenith shipping crates. A 40 or 60 watt light bulb works great to keep the > insides above freezing here is Ohio. > > There is only one problem.....when the bulb burns out, it does not call me > on the phone to say it burned out. :( If you just leave it on 24/7, like > I did, it takes two standard 2000 hour bulbs to last a winter. Since I > have miss-judged the bulb replacement timing both winters, I froze > everything in the box solid. I will still use it this winter, but have > already taken the things sensitive to freezing home. I will not use them > anyway in the winter, so why leave them there. > > -------- > David Gallagher > 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 > First flight 7/24/08 > Upgraded 3/19/10 > 160+ hours and climbing! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317896#317896 > > -- Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:52 PM PST US From: "Paul Mulwitz" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" Hi Guys, I'm afraid the series circuiit doesn't really solve the problems. The CFL doesn't either. What actualy works is to use 2 25W bulbs wired in parallel. This gives you plenty of heat and when one bulb burns out the other one still works for a while. You just need to inspect the setup from time to time to find the single burned out bulb and replace it. I have used a similar setup for years to keep wood very dry for fancy box and pen making. The light bulbs keep the box warm so it doesn't collect condensation -- at least on the inside. Good luck, Paul Camas, WA -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" String two bulbs is series. With half the voltage they should last forever. Or use a CFL ;-) -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveG601XL Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Winter Hanger "Warm Box" I kind of forgot about my box question from a few years back. To follow up, I made a simple 3'X3'X2' box out of plywood and lumber left over from my Zenith shipping crates. A 40 or 60 watt light bulb works great to keep the insides above freezing here is Ohio. There is only one problem.....when the bulb burns out, it does not call me on the phone to say it burned out. :( If you just leave it on 24/7, like I did, it takes two standard 2000 hour bulbs to last a winter. Since I have miss-judged the bulb replacement timing both winters, I froze everything in the box solid. I will still use it this winter, but have already taken the things sensitive to freezing home. I will not use them anyway in the winter, so why leave them there. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL/Jabiru 3300 First flight 7/24/08 Upgraded 3/19/10 160+ hours and climbing! 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