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1. 08:01 AM - Upgrade or lack there of! Aileron (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
2. 08:07 AM - Chat Room (George Race)
3. 08:19 AM - Re: Chat Room (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
4. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: weight amd balance (Don Honabach)
5. 10:21 AM - Re: [Probable Spam] Re: Re: weight amd balance (Larry McFarland)
6. 01:17 PM - Re: weight amd balance (Wingrider)
7. 06:06 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] Re: weight amd balance (Larry McFarland)
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| Subject: | Upgrade or lack there of! Aileron |
Under each Photo is a note of what is incorrect.
This is as opened and you can see there are no rivets in the rib where it
meets the
aileron and the rivet spacing in the top and bottom of the skin is
incorrect (missing rivets).
Also not the nuts might be bottomed out and one more washer is needed.
As a result of this I believe it caused flexing in the aileron and caused
it to bend at the
trailing edge and now this aileron has to be replaced.
Here you can see the reinforcement is installed incorrectly... This should
be forward and
also attached to the hinge and angle to keep the skin from bending. This is
absolutely
useless and if you look it was once drilled correctly and was in the
correct location.
Her
Same as above
This one I feel is the most critical and was installed again too far aft
and as a result
the new paint is cracked at the joint from flexing.
This is the new aileron that will be installed. I offered these to Sabrina
when she was
needing some but she ended up doing something else so now it will have a
new
home on this bird. I have been storing these for 4 years now..... anyone
need a right aileron??
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Live Chat Room every Monday evening around 8:00 EDT
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Click on the Chat Room link at the top of the page.
George
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In a message dated 12/12/2010 11:08:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Click on the Chat Room link at the top of the page.
George
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| Subject: | Re: weight amd balance |
>> I read where someone stated the HDS glides like a well thrown man hole cover
and after 20 hours phase 1 time I have to agree.
In fairness though, it does have a major benefit - really easy to dump some altitude
if you come in high on landing as I was reminded this weekend on a 5 mile
straight in final that I misjudged. :).
Don
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wingrider
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: weight amd balance
I have an HDS with the Zenith 10 gal wing tanks an 8 gal header tank and Corvair
engine. No problem staying within the CG envelope. The forward CG is slightly
below the minimum when calculated with a 170# pilot but I don't weigh 170. My
battery is mounted on the firewall but at some point I will probably move it
behind the passenger seat which will improve the W&B.
I read where someone stated the HDS glides like a well thrown man hole cover and
after 20 hours phase 1 time I have to agree.
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS Under Construction
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| Subject: | Re: weight amd balance |
One also learns that with that high sink rate, the HDS has a great
ground-cushion that permits excellent greased landings. I practice these
all the time and
have never been disappointed. The 3-blade prop acts like an air brake when
passing over the end of the runway and then ground-cushion retards the
descent in the last 10 feet.
Just don't descend too slowly.
Larry McFarland
601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Honabach
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: [Probable Spam] RE: Zenith-List: Re: weight amd balance
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>> I read where someone stated the HDS glides like a well thrown man hole
cover and after 20 hours phase 1 time I have to agree.
In fairness though, it does have a major benefit - really easy to dump some
altitude if you come in high on landing as I was reminded this weekend on a
5 mile straight in final that I misjudged. :).
Don
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wingrider
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: weight amd balance
I have an HDS with the Zenith 10 gal wing tanks an 8 gal header tank and
Corvair engine. No problem staying within the CG envelope. The forward CG is
slightly below the minimum when calculated with a 170# pilot but I don't
weigh 170. My battery is mounted on the firewall but at some point I will
probably move it behind the passenger seat which will improve the W&B.
I read where someone stated the HDS glides like a well thrown man hole cover
and after 20 hours phase 1 time I have to agree.
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS Under Construction
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322892#322892
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| Subject: | Re: weight amd balance |
If you really want to bleed off some altitude come down and VNE, I've done 170
mph a couple of times.
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS
Phase 1 Flight Testing
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| Subject: | Re: weight amd balance |
I've more than a few times descended at 140 mph plus to enter a base, slow
to a 80 mph final and applied both foot and "air brakes" by idling my prop
to get off the runway ahead of an inbound
regional jet, not 15-seconds behind my turnoff onto the taxiway. Don't
think it's wise to get much faster than that in less than perfect air
though!
Sweet aircraft!
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wingrider
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:14 PM
Subject: [Probable Spam] Zenith-List: Re: weight amd balance
If you really want to bleed off some altitude come down and VNE, I've done
170 mph a couple of times.
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS
Phase 1 Flight Testing
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