---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/12/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:26 AM - Witness Paint, What to Use (William Dominguez) 2. 08:09 AM - Re: Witness Paint, What to Use (Rick Lindstrom) 3. 08:35 AM - Re: Witness Paint, What to Use (Pete Krotje) 4. 08:36 AM - Re: Witness Paint, What to Use (FLYaDIVE) 5. 08:43 AM - Re: Witness Paint, What to Use (FLYaDIVE) 6. 09:05 AM - FUEL TANK SEALANTS (FLYaDIVE) 7. 05:40 PM - Re: FUEL TANK SEALANTS (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 8. 08:54 PM - Re: Tube Bender. (Scotsman) 9. 09:23 PM - Re: Re: Tube Bender. (Paul Mulwitz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:22 AM PST US From: William Dominguez Subject: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use What type of paint can be used as a witness paint for bolts and nuts. I guess it should be a little thick and dark in color, preferably with its own brush attached to the cap. I was looking at ACS but didn't find anything specifically for this. I was thinking on auto touch up paint found in auto parts but this type of paint tend to be very thin and it might go around the bolt. What about nail paint? Any suggestion? Thanks, William Dominguez Zodiac 601XL Plans Miami, Florida http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:59 AM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use Torque Seal, available in a variety of colors. -----Original Message----- >From: William Dominguez >Sent: Jan 12, 2011 7:14 AM >To: Matronics List >Subject: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use > >What type of paint can be used as a witness paint for bolts and nuts. I guess it >should be a little thick and dark in color, preferably with its own brush >attached to the cap. I was looking at ACS but didn't find anything specifically >for this. I was thinking on auto touch up paint found in auto parts but this >type of paint tend to be very thin and it might go around the bolt. What about >nail paint? > >Any suggestion? > > >Thanks, > >William Dominguez >Zodiac 601XL Plans >Miami, Florida >http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:28 AM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use >From most auto stores -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lindstrom Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use Torque Seal, available in a variety of colors. -----Original Message----- >From: William Dominguez >Sent: Jan 12, 2011 7:14 AM >To: Matronics List >Subject: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use > >What type of paint can be used as a witness paint for bolts and nuts. I guess it >should be a little thick and dark in color, preferably with its own brush >attached to the cap. I was looking at ACS but didn't find anything specifically >for this. I was thinking on auto touch up paint found in auto parts but this >type of paint tend to be very thin and it might go around the bolt. What about >nail paint? > >Any suggestion? > > >Thanks, > >William Dominguez >Zodiac 601XL Plans >Miami, Florida >http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use From: FLYaDIVE William: Check ACS for F-1000 SENTRY SEAL * * *Barry * On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM, William Dominguez wrote: > What type of paint can be used as a witness paint for bolts and nuts. I > guess it should be a little thick and dark in color, preferably with its own > brush attached to the cap. I was looking at ACS but didn't find anything > specifically for this. I was thinking on auto touch up paint found in auto > parts but this type of paint tend to be very thin and it might go around the > bolt. What about nail paint? > > Any suggestion? > > > Thanks, > > William Dominguez > Zodiac 601XL Plans > Miami, Florida > http://sites.google.com/site/billplane/ > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Witness Paint, What to Use From: FLYaDIVE Also try any on this page: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/cs/sealants.html Barry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:55 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: FUEL TANK SEALANTS From: FLYaDIVE Hello Gaggle: I have been fighting leaking fuel tans for a while. The tanks are aluminum and sealed with PRO SEAL or the equivalent. Since my engine likes both AvGas and MoGas and MoGas has ethanol I would like a sealant that can stand up to both. Stop - I know about the trick of removing the ethanol from MoGas but that is only about 90% effective. I would like to run straight MoGas. Would anyone out there have any experience in this area? Thank you for the assistance. Barry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:01 PM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: FUEL TANK SEALANTS Barry >From what I have seen Pro Seal is what Vansused to sell and it seems it will stand up to MoGas as long as you don't let the tanks sit empty. I have seen pro seal turn to gue after it had sat for long periods of time (and I am talking years) so it might be the vapor more than the actual fuel that causes the degradation. Van's now sells Flame Master and I am not sure if it is reformulated or what but you might want to call Van's aircraft and ask if it will stand up to MoGas Jeff In a message dated 1/12/2011 12:06:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, flyadive@gmail.com writes: Hello Gaggle: I have been fighting leaking fuel tans for a while. The tanks are aluminum and sealed with PRO SEAL or the equivalent. Since my engine likes both AvGas and MoGas and MoGas has ethanol I would like a sealant that can stand up to both. Stop - I know about the trick of removing the ethanol from MoGas but that is only about 90% effective. I would like to run straight MoGas. Would anyone out there have any experience in this area? Thank you for the assistance. Barry (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:09 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Tube Bender. From: "Scotsman" Paul you are a star..I set up your jig a la the photo earlier on the thread and it worked really well. Like you mentioned earlier it is an iterative process (slowly slowly) but the result on the front hoop is that it is a pretty exact match to the shape of the canopy. On the subject of the groove mentioned earlier it is not necessary. I also found that the 19mm shutter ply dented in after several bends to form a small gentle bend that maybe helped. If I had to repeat this exercise I would probably bolt both elements to the jog instead of using screws as the screws seemed to provide a little "give" which does really help the process. PS. I didn't notice any flattening of the hoop and I did not fill the hoop with sand (which I probably should have done). James -------- Cell +27 83 675 0815 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326813#326813 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:06 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Tube Bender. Thank you James, That is the first nice thing anybody on this list has said to me in years. Best regards, Paul On 1/12/2011 8:51 PM, Scotsman wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scotsman" > > Paul you are a star..I set up your jig a la the photo earlier on the thread and it worked really well. Like you mentioned earlier it is an iterative process (slowly slowly) but the result on the front hoop is that it is a pretty exact match to the shape of the canopy. > > On the subject of the groove mentioned earlier it is not necessary. I also found that the 19mm shutter ply dented in after several bends to form a small gentle bend that maybe helped. > > If I had to repeat this exercise I would probably bolt both elements to the jog instead of using screws as the screws seemed to provide a little "give" which does really help the process. > > PS. I didn't notice any flattening of the hoop and I did not fill the hoop with sand (which I probably should have done). > > James > > -------- > Cell +27 83 675 0815 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326813#326813 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.