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Tue 03/15/11


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     1. 04:43 AM - Re: Trimming Canopy (Carroll Jernigan)
     2. 04:53 AM - Re: Trimming Canopy (Carroll Jernigan)
     3. 06:25 AM - Re: Trimming Canopy (Bill Pagan)
     4. 06:50 AM - Re: Trimming Canopy (Carroll Jernigan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:43:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trimming Canopy
    From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com>
    Bill Thanks for your help. I was wondering if you might do one more thing for me and measure the length of your canopy down the center. Mine measures 1900m m. The Zenith online parts store does not list a separate canopy for the 65 0, (That I can find) but they do brag about the larger 650 canopy in their sales literature. The way mine sits on the fuselage right now I've got abou t 10 inches of headroom and it extends from the firewall all the way back t o the center of the top middle skin. That would be nice but I can't help bu t wonder what would happen to the aerodynamics. Thanks again Carroll -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 2:03 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Just went into the shop and measured. The front of mine is right at 190 and the rear is about 250. My guess is you have the canopy for the 650. Bill Pag=C3=A1n From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:33:53 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Bill There is a dimension shown in the drawings for the front edge of the canopy to be 190mm behind the rivet line at the forward top skin to firewall. If I observe that distance the front fits great but the rear edge of the canop y is over 600mm back on the top middle skin. Do I have the right canopy? Carroll -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy My Canopy required very little trimming. Be sure you're not moving the end s in too close (front and back). I used a dremel with a cutoff wheel to tr im mine. Bill Pag=C3=A1n From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:04:31 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Where can I get some guidance and possibly some dimensions for trimm ing the the Zenith supplied canopy for my 601XL? The builders guide says th at the canopy is supplied with the ends properly trimmed but if that is tru e I have built my airplane about 17 inches too short. Carroll Jernigan 601XL (updating) Corvair (Running) -================== tor?Zenith-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List tp://forums.matronics.com bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution vigator?Zenith-List" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.co ======================= -->


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    Time: 04:53:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trimming Canopy
    From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com>
    Thanks Christoph -----Original Message----- From: Christoph Steiner <mcr01steiner@mac.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 12:26 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Where can I get some guidance and possibly some dimensions for trimm ing the the Zenith supplied canopy for my 601XL? The builders guide says th at the canopy is supplied with the ends properly trimmed but if that is tru e I have built my airplane about 17 inches too short. Carroll Jernigan 601XL (updating) Corvair (Running) Have you seen this ? http://www.ch601.org/resources/canopy_install/Canopyfitting2.pdf Christoph Steiner


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    Time: 06:25:20 AM PST US
    From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Trimming Canopy
    Hey Carroll,- Mine is 1600 (63")straight line front to back edge and abou t =0A1760-(69 1/4") over the top.- As I said before my front edge is 19 0 from the =0Afirewall rivet line and the back is about 260 from the front edge of the top =0Askin.--Still seems to me that you have the wrong can opy but Zenith can tell you =0Afor sure.- My kit was a quickbuild (notice I said was - after the upgrade it =0Aseems like I should have taken the ex tra money for the quickbuild and gone to =0AVegas) but the dimensions shoul d be the same.- =0A=0A=0ABill Pag=E1n=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________ ___________=0AFrom: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-list @matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, March 15, 2011 7:37:58 AM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith -List: Trimming Canopy=0A=0ABill=0AThanks for your help. I was wondering if you might do one more thing for me and =0Ameasure the length of your canop y down the center. Mine measures 1900mm. The =0AZenith online parts store d oes not list a separate canopy for the 650, (That I =0Acan find) but they d o brag about the larger 650 canopy in their sales =0Aliterature. The way mi ne sits on the fuselage right now I've got about 10 inches =0Aof headroom a nd it extends from the firewall all the way back to the center of =0Athe to p middle skin. That would be nice but I can't help but wonder what would =0Ahappen to the aerodynamics.=0AThanks again=0ACarroll=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message-----=0AFrom: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com>=0ATo: zenit h-list <zenith-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 2:03 pm=0ASubj ect: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy=0A=0A=0AJust went into the shop and m easured. The front of mine is right at 190 and the =0Arear is about 250.- My guess is you have the-canopy for the 650.=0A-=0ABill Pag=E1n=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Carroll Jernigan <trainnu t01@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12 :33:53 PM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy=0A=0ABill=0AThere is a dimension shown in the drawings for the front edge of the canopy to =0Abe 190mm behind the rivet line at the forward top skin to firewall. If I obse rve =0Athat distance the front fits great but the rear edge of the canopy i s over 600mm =0Aback on the top middle skin. Do I have the right canopy?=0A Carroll=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Bill Pagan <bill.p agan@yahoo.com>=0ATo: zenith-list <zenith-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 12:02 pm=0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy=0A=0A=0AM y Canopy required very little trimming.- Be sure you're not moving the en ds in =0Atoo close (front and back).- I used a dremel with a cutoff wheel to trim mine.=0A-=0ABill Pag=E1n=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0AFrom: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-li st@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:04:31 AM=0ASubject: Zenith- List: Trimming Canopy=0A=0A------ Where can I get some guidance and possibly some dimensions for trimming =0Athe the Zenith supplied canop y for my 601XL? The builders guide says that the =0Acanopy is supplied with the ends properly trimmed but if that is true I have =0Abuilt my airplane about 17 inches too short.=0ACarroll Jernigan=0A601XL (updating)=0ACorvair (Running)=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A -================ ====0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A ========= ===0A =0A tor?Zenith-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Li st=0A =0A ============0A =0A tp://forums.matronics.co m=0A =0A ============0A =0A bution">http://www.matron ics.com/contribution=0A =0A ============0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A vigator?Zenith-List" rel=nofollow =0Atarget=_blank>http://ww w.matronics.co==================== =====0A --> =0A=0A=0A =0A ============0A w,co urier" size="2">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List=0A == ==========0A tp://forums.matronics.com=0A ===== =======0A bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A = = =0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 06:50:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trimming Canopy
    From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com>
    Thanks so very much Bill. I am waiting to hear from Zenith but I do have a plan of attack now. Mine is scratch built and I stopped building when I anticipated the update coming so the modifications have not been too big a deal. I thought I would save money by scratch building but now I don't think so, what money Zenith didn't get UPS did. I'm retired so I don't consider my time very valuable which is a good thing because I am beginning my sixth year on this project. Carroll do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 9:25 am Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Hey Carroll, Mine is 1600 (63")straight line front to back edge and about 1760 (69 1/4") over the top. As I said before my front edge is 190 from th e firewall rivet line and the back is about 260 from the front edge of the top skin. Still seems to me that you have the wrong canopy but Zenith can tell you for sure. My kit was a quickbuild (notice I said was - after the upgrade it seems like I should have taken the extra money for the quickbuil d and gone to Vegas) but the dimensions should be the same. Bill Pag=C3=A1n From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com> Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 7:37:58 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Bill Thanks for your help. I was wondering if you might do one more thing for me and measure the length of your canopy down the center. Mine measures 1900m m. The Zenith online parts store does not list a separate canopy for the 65 0, (That I can find) but they do brag about the larger 650 canopy in their sales literature. The way mine sits on the fuselage right now I've got abou t 10 inches of headroom and it extends from the firewall all the way back t o the center of the top middle skin. That would be nice but I can't help bu t wonder what would happen to the aerodynamics. Thanks again Carroll -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 2:03 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Just went into the shop and measured. The front of mine is right at 190 and the rear is about 250. My guess is you have the canopy for the 650. Bill Pag=C3=A1n From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:33:53 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Bill There is a dimension shown in the drawings for the front edge of the canopy to be 190mm behind the rivet line at the forward top skin to firewall. If I observe that distance the front fits great but the rear edge of the canop y is over 600mm back on the top middle skin. Do I have the right canopy? Carroll -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pagan <bill.pagan@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 14, 2011 12:02 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy My Canopy required very little trimming. Be sure you're not moving the end s in too close (front and back). I used a dremel with a cutoff wheel to tr im mine. Bill Pag=C3=A1n From: Carroll Jernigan <trainnut01@aol.com> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:04:31 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Trimming Canopy Where can I get some guidance and possibly some dimensions for trimm ing the the Zenith supplied canopy for my 601XL? The builders guide says th at the canopy is supplied with the ends properly trimmed but if that is tru e I have built my airplane about 17 inches too short. Carroll Jernigan 601XL (updating) Corvair (Running) -================== tor?Zenith-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List tp://forums.matronics.com bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution vigator?Zenith-List" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.co ======================= --> w,courier" size="2">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List tp://forums.matronics.com bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/contribution<============




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