---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/30/11: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:26 PM - 701 down (michael lord) 2. 07:44 PM - Re: Greenhouse cockpit (Bryan Martin) 3. 08:00 PM - Re: Greenhouse cockpit (Klaus Truemper) 4. 08:25 PM - Re: Greenhouse cockpit (FLYaDIVE) 5. 08:42 PM - Re: 701 down (David J. Dormer) 6. 09:08 PM - Re: Cont. 0200 and engine mout for sale (rhodes1) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:19 PM PST US From: "michael lord" Subject: Zenith-List: 701 down Hi Guys 701 down 15 miles from Green Bay Wi. >From what I heard it was engine failure on take off. Regards Mike Lord A Suamico man injured after his plane crashed at Carter Airport near Pulaski Friday, is flown to St. Vincent Hospital in Green Bay. PITTSFIELD -- A 67-year-old Suamico man, flying an experimental aircraft for the first time, crashed Friday afternoon on takeoff from Carter Airport in Pittsfield and suffered what authorities describe as serious head injuries. The man, identified by the Brown County sheriff's department as Michael Jurmu of Spur Lane, was treated by paramedics and flown by EAGLE III to St. Vincent Hospital, according to the Brown County Sheriff's Department. Jurmu's condition is unknown Friday evening. The aircraft, a fixed-wing, single-engine plane, is registered to Jurmu, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The aircraft is classified as experimental and was built in August 2010, according to the FAA. According to Jurmu's friends at the airport, he is an experienced pilot but was flying the blue-and-white craft for the first time when it lost power on takeoff and crashed in a field east of the airport about 30 yards from the Mountain-Bay Trail. Law enforcement and rescue personnel received the call about the crash just after 2 p.m. Brown County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Bill Morgan said Jurmu sustained a head injury and was unresponsive when taken to the N.E.W. Para-Medic Rescue vehicle. He was then taken to the nearby helicopter and flown to the hospital. A friend at Carter airport who didn't identify himself said Jurmu was retired. The airport is adjacent to Wisconsin 32 just two miles south of Pulaski. According to a veteran Tri-County Rescue Department official, it was the first plane accident at Carter Field in more than 20 years. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:35 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Greenhouse cockpit I installed a Koger Sunshade in my 601. Available from ACS, Cleveland Tool and direct from Koger. It does a good job keeping the cabin cooler. I also installed a pair of Vista Vents in the lower front corners of the canopy. They do a good job of ventilating the cabin in flight. With the old style canopy latch, it is fairly easy to prop open the canopy during taxi. I bought a striker pin from an auto parts store and bolted it to a piece of metal bar stock with a hole drilled in the opposite end. I insert the pin on the bar in the latch on the canopy and slip the hole over the pin on the rail. I suppose something like this could be made to fit the 650's latch mechanism. On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37 PM, davecove wrote: > > > I am sure some of you south of Mason-Dixon have struggled with this and found good solutions. Would you mind sharing? How does one mitigate all that surface area? > > Also, is it possible to taxi with the canopy partly raised so that the big fan keeps things cool in the cockpit while on the ground? (in the AA5 you could actually fly with the canopy opened about 8" (as per POH), very refreshing) > > Dave > Houston, TX -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:35 PM PST US From: Klaus Truemper Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Greenhouse cockpit Hi Dave, When we first started on the 601HDS, we had much concern about heat in the cockpit due to the bubble canopy. As countermeasure, we selected the tinted canopy. Now, 15 years and 1300 hrs later, that concern has turned out to be unnecessary. We are based in Dallas, and often fly west to New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. As soon as we are in the air, there is so much air blown into the cockpit that it is comfortable. We had one exception. Flying midday into Laughlin/Bullhead City at the southern tip of Nevada, we had to close the vents during the descent since the incoming air became too hot, 115 Deg F! Happy Flying, Klaus ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Greenhouse cockpit From: FLYaDIVE Dave: Why don't yo do what some Grumman AA1 owners do... PAINT the INSIDE of the canopy with White or Silver in the shape of the windows of an AA5A&B. Easy shade and being that it is on the inside there is no peeling and less fading. OR .... Get the Sliding Sun Shade offered by Van's for RV6 's. Barry On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM, davecove wrote: > > For years, my wife and I owned and flew a Grumman AA5 that had a slide-back > canopy with a solid top and side windows. The solid center 'stripe' provided > lots of welcome shade. > > Now I am seriously looking at starting a 650 but my wife looked at that > giant bubble canopy and said 'greenhouse'. She is right of course, here in > Houston that giant bubble will allow us to pop popcorn for in-route > snacking. > > I am sure some of you south of Mason-Dixon have struggled with this and > found good solutions. Would you mind sharing? How does one mitigate all that > surface area? > > Also, is it possible to taxi with the canopy partly raised so that the big > fan keeps things cool in the cockpit while on the ground? (in the AA5 you > could actually fly with the canopy opened about 8" (as per POH), very > refreshing) > > Dave > Houston, TX > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338492#338492 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:34 PM PST US From: "David J. Dormer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 down It is my sincerest wish and hope that Mr. Jurmu will recovery fully from his accident. May God Grace and Strengthen any family members and friends. Every time I read a tragic account like this one, I wonder why flight helmets aren't more frequently used when flying in experimental or general aviation aircraft. It is likely, given the general mentality on the subject", that Mr. Jurmu wasn't wearing one either. Racecar drivers wear them, motorcyclists, bike riders, even skateboarders wear helmets. Very often, when you hire someone to test flight your experimental, he/she will arrive with a helmet and sometimes a parachute. Yet, flight helmets aren't generally considered "needed", "acceptable" or "required" in personal/GA aircraft. Are any of you old enough to remember when seatbelts weren't required in automobiles? I think that an account like this brings the practical need into a more real view. David J. Dormer Chaplain(MAJ) USA, Retired ----- Original Message ----- From: michael lord To: Zenith-List@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Zenith-List: 701 down Hi Guys 701 down 15 miles from Green Bay Wi. From what I heard it was engine failure on take off. Regards Mike Lord A Suamico man injured after his plane crashed at Carter Airport near Pulaski Friday, is flown to St. Vincent Hospital in Green Bay. PITTSFIELD -- A 67-year-old Suamico man, flying an experimental aircraft for the first time, crashed Friday afternoon on takeoff from Carter Airport in Pittsfield and suffered what authorities describe as serious head injuries. The man, identified by the Brown County sheriff's department as Michael Jurmu of Spur Lane, was treated by paramedics and flown by EAGLE III to St. Vincent Hospital, according to the Brown County Sheriff's Department. Jurmu's condition is unknown Friday evening. The aircraft, a fixed-wing, single-engine plane, is registered to Jurmu, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The aircraft is classified as experimental and was built in August 2010, according to the FAA. According to Jurmu's friends at the airport, he is an experienced pilot but was flying the blue-and-white craft for the first time when it lost power on takeoff and crashed in a field east of the airport about 30 yards from the Mountain-Bay Trail. Law enforcement and rescue personnel received the call about the crash just after 2 p.m. Brown County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Bill Morgan said Jurmu sustained a head injury and was unresponsive when taken to the N.E.W. Para-Medic Rescue vehicle. He was then taken to the nearby helicopter and flown to the hospital. A friend at Carter airport who didn't identify himself said Jurmu was retired. The airport is adjacent to Wisconsin 32 just two miles south of Pulaski. According to a veteran Tri-County Rescue Department official, it was the first plane accident at Carter Field in more than 20 years. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:33 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Cont. 0200 and engine mout for sale From: "rhodes1" I am also looking for an 0-200A for a certified A/C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338537#338537 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.