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1. 06:50 AM - 701 project for sale (Gsrth@aol.com)
2. 10:32 AM - Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Jeffrey J Paris)
3. 12:39 PM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Steve Freeman)
4. 12:56 PM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (ben52425@aol.com)
5. 02:27 PM - Advisory Circular (roger lambert)
6. 02:43 PM - Re: Advisory Circular (Don Honabach)
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| Subject: | 701 project for sale |
701 scratch built project. Less than 10% completed. Plans, factory parts,
materials, manuals, tools. Over $2,000 invested, will sell for $1,000. For
complete listing and description contact Garth Dawson _gsrth@aol.com_
(mailto:gsrth@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
Dear Technical Support,
=C2-
This morning I test flew N196ZP Ch601XL B model serial number 6-4839 at my l
ocal airport (SDC) with that in mind, I was a bit concerned over the "stiffn
ess" of my ailerons. =C2-Before the mod I would describe my Zodiacs handli
ng as superb, but today control forces in the roll aspect of flight were qui
te stiff and required some force to move.
=C2-
Is this normal? =C2-I would assume some change in the handling qualities d
ue to the mods/aileron counterweights, but I definitely was not that comfort
able with the aileron response.
=C2-
Should the cable tension be backed off a bit? =C2-Are you fielding similar
response from other "modifiers'?
=C2-
Other than that, I have attached some pictures of our latest iteration of ou
r much loved Zodiac. =C2-We stripped all the paint off of her this winter
while we completeed the mods and I am now trying to debug the aircraft after
sitting for 1.5 years. =C2-Also, sorry about Sun N' Fun I was very sadden
ed by the misfortune caused by the weather, I can't even imagine what it mus
t feel like.
=C2-
Well thanks for your time and consideration.
=C2-
Sincerely,
=C2-
Jeff Paris and Peter Paris in Rochester, NY
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
JEFF
I FOUND THE SAME RESPONSE WITH MY 601XLB
DON,T KNOW THE ANSWER
BEN 524B
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey J Paris <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 9:34 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight eva
uation
Dear Technical Support,
This morning I test flew N196ZP Ch601XL B model serial number 6-4839 at my
local airport (SDC) with that in mind, I was a bit concerned over the "stif
fness" of my ailerons. Before the mod I would describe my Zodiacs handling
as superb, but today control forces in the roll aspect of flight were quit
e stiff and required some force to move.
Is this normal? I would assume some change in the handling qualities due t
o the mods/aileron counterweights, but I definitely was not that comfortabl
e with the aileron response.
Should the cable tension be backed off a bit? Are you fielding similar res
ponse from other "modifiers'?
Other than that, I have attached some pictures of our latest iteration of o
ur much loved Zodiac. We stripped all the paint off of her this winter whi
le we completeed the mods and I am now trying to debug the aircraft after s
itting for 1.5 years. Also, sorry about Sun N' Fun I was very saddened by
the misfortune caused by the weather, I can't even imagine what it must fee
l like.
Well thanks for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Jeff Paris and Peter Paris in Rochester, NY
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| Subject: | Advisory Circular |
Some of you may be interested in Advisory Circular #90-109, dated 3/30/11
regarding transitioning to new or different aircraft. It specifically
references the Zodiac, among others, as belonging to a group of aircraft
that:
*
(2) *There are many more experimental airplanes that may look more like type
certificated (TC) airplanes, but they actually have light control forces
and/or very quick maneuvering response. Lightweight and lightly wing-loaded
airplanes can also have the same quick, light response as many aerobatic
airplanes. The hazard of light forces and rapid response is that without
some level of training, the pilot may over-control the airplane. This can
manifest itself during any phase of flight. The risks can vary from
frustration to damage during takeoff and landing, to loss of control up to
and including overstressing the airframe and structural failure.
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| Subject: | Advisory Circular |
Great post -
On my first flight (which I foolishly did without any prior 601 training),
I was caught off guard by how little you had to move the control stick. I q
uickly caught my over controlling ways, but the first 5 seconds were defini
tely uncomfortable. Now I love how I can fly the plane with minor movements
. When I did my BFR though in a 172, it was weird having to move the yoke s
o much...
Don
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of roger lambert
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Advisory Circular
Some of you may be interested in Advisory Circular #90-109, dated 3/30/11 r
egarding transitioning to new or different aircraft. It specifically refer
ences the Zodiac, among others, as belonging to a group of aircraft that:
(2)
There are many more experimental airplanes that may look more like type cer
tificated (TC) airplanes, but they actually have light control forces and/o
r very quick maneuvering response. Lightweight and lightly wing-loaded airp
lanes can also have the same quick, light response as many aerobatic airpla
nes. The hazard of light forces and rapid response is that without some lev
el of training, the pilot may over-control the airplane. This can manifest
itself during any phase of flight. The risks can vary from frustration to d
amage during takeoff and landing, to loss of control up to and including ov
erstressing the airframe and structural failure.
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