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1. 04:59 AM - MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 (chris Sinfield)
2. 05:10 AM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (chris Sinfield)
3. 10:05 AM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Ken Lilja)
4. 10:27 AM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Tonyplane)
5. 12:17 PM - Corvair (Steve Freeman)
6. 12:45 PM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Phil Maxson)
7. 04:02 PM - Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 (eddies)
8. 04:59 PM - Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation (Ken Lilja)
9. 09:47 PM - Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 (chris Sinfield)
10. 10:36 PM - Re: Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 |
Guys and girls
has anyone fitted an MLG RV-1 digial RPM guage and hobbs metre to a Jab3300? I
was thinking of using this in my XLB instead of the VDO guage.
So good bad or otherwise before I spend my $$
Chris.
Zodiac XLB
Sydney Aust
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
Jeff
were your Ailerons hinged or non hinged after the mod??
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
Please DON'T back off the cable tensions! that is part of what was
causing problems. Check the tensions often and set to spec. One thing
you can check is to see if all the pulleys in the system are ball
bearing types. Lube all metal to metal contacts (clevis pins, bolt to
bushing and such) Wurth has a spray grease that penetrates and then
solidifies into a grease (heavy duty WHITE lithium grease 18931041)
Better than oil. Keep all lubricated parts clean.
Ken Lilja
On 5/7/2011 8:55 AM, george may wrote:
> Jeff--
> Your observations are similar to my own. I have about 85 hours on
> the mod and as with most things ,you get used to it.
>
> George May
> 601XLB 912---385hrs
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:27:10 -0400
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> From: jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Question about handling CH601XLB post
> mods/flight evauation
>
> Dear Technical Support,
> This morning I test flew N196ZP Ch601XL B model serial number 6-4839
> at my local airport (SDC) with that in mind, I was a bit concerned
> over the "stiffness" of my ailerons. Before the mod I would describe
> my Zodiacs handling as superb, but today control forces in the roll
> aspect of flight were quite stiff and required some force to move.
> Is this normal? I would assume some change in the handling qualities
> due to the mods/aileron counterweights, but I definitely was not that
> comfortable with the aileron response.
> Should the cable tension be backed off a bit? Are you fielding
> similar response from other "modifiers'?
> Other than that, I have attached some pictures of our latest iteration
> of our much loved Zodiac. We stripped all the paint off of her this
> winter while we completeed the mods and I am now trying to debug the
> aircraft after sitting for 1.5 years. Also, sorry about Sun N' Fun I
> was very saddened by the misfortune caused by the weather, I can't
> even imagine what it must feel like.
> Well thanks for your time and consideration.
> Sincerely,
> Jeff Paris and Peter Paris in Rochester, NY
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
Because of insurance issues, put my XL down in October for the "B" mod. Ha
d it back enjoying the sky last month.
Did not notice any control force difference. I kept the hingeless aileron
which still promptly centers the stick when the stick is roll deflected, an
d released, on the ground.
Tony Graziano
XL/Jab; 609.9 hrs. from my rough farm strip in Buchanan, Tennessee
Sent from my iPhone
On May 7, 2011, at 7:55 AM, george may <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jeff--
> Your observations are similar to my own. I have about 85 hours on the mo
d and as with most things ,you get used to it.
>
> George May
> 601XLB 912---385hrs
>
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:27:10 -0400
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> From: jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight ev
auation
>
> Dear Technical Support,
>
> This morning I test flew N196ZP Ch601XL B model serial number 6-4839 at my
local airport (SDC) with that in mind, I was a bit concerned over the "stif
fness" of my ailerons. Before the mod I would describe my Zodiacs handling a
s superb, but today control forces in the roll aspect of flight were quite s
tiff and required some force to move.
>
> Is this normal? I would assume some change in the handling qualities due t
o the mods/aileron counterweights, but I definitely was not that comfortable
with the aileron response.
>
> Should the cable tension be backed off a bit? Are you fielding similar re
sponse from other "modifiers'?
>
> Other than that, I have attached some pictures of our latest iteration of o
ur much loved Zodiac. We stripped all the paint off of her this winter whil
e we completeed the mods and I am now trying to debug the aircraft after sit
ting for 1.5 years. Also, sorry about Sun N' Fun I was very saddened by the
misfortune caused by the weather, I can't even imagine what it must feel li
ke.
>
> Well thanks for your time and consideration.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff Paris and Peter Paris in Rochester, NY
>
>
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Can any listers who are using the Aeromax Aviation Corviar engine pipe in
with your opinion on the 100IFB engine, the company, your
thoughts/impressions and how you feel flying behind it?
I will be flying out of DVT in Phx, AZ and in the summer we can get some
pretty high density altitudes when flying to some of the airports in the
mountains. I have read some good things in the past about this engine but I
am concerned about the power. I had been leaning towards the Jabiru 3300
but the more I have read about this engine and how the Corvair was
originally designed as an aircraft engine the more intrigued I have become.
I am also impressed with the way the description (at least in theory as I
ahev not seen it in real life) of the Integral Front bear they have
developed to:
"In response to the need for a strong support bearing on the front of the
crankshaft, Aeromax Aviation had designed and developed the Aeromax (patent
pending) "Integral Front Bearing" or "IFB". "Integral" because the new prop
hub (4140 steel) is now integrated with and mounted onto the original
crankshaft. The new crank has a fifth front bearing surface up front. It
is then ground/nitrided as one piece crank. This makes for a very strong,
straight and true crankshaft and prop flange. Our IFB design eliminates
many parts (such as bolts, nuts, safety shafts, aluminum prop hubs, flanges
and more) and is actually lighter. The IFB Housing is a special purpose
CNC'd unit that is assembled in our shop using a special alignment tool.
The thrust, bending and gyroscopical loads from the prop are now being
properly countered and protect the crank
The Aromax front bearing is masive. It is double the width of a standard
corvair bearing. It is comprable to the bearing surface area of a
Continental O-200 enigne"
Any thoughts and opinions are highly appreciated.
Steve (moving along on my 650B) Freeman
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight evauation |
Ken Lilja wrote:
>> One thing you can check is to see if all >>the pulleys in the system are ball
>>bearing types.
There are no pulleys in a standard XL control system.
Phil Maxson
601XLB
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| Subject: | Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 |
Hey Chis,
The MGL stuff is getting better and better, should be a nice little unit, hang
the expense, buy yourself a present, after all you deserve it ;)
Eddie
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| Subject: | Re: Question about handling CH601XLB post mods/flight |
evauation
Straight cable runs - all the better. Not that far along yet : )
Ken Lilja
On 5/8/2011 3:39 PM, Phil Maxson wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson "<pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
> Ken Lilja wrote:
>>> One thing you can check is to see if all>>the pulleys in the system are ball>>bearing
types.
> There are no pulleys in a standard XL control system.
>
> Phil Maxson
> 601XLB
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 |
Eddie
Its the same price as the big VDO RPM guage with the $ the way it is, provided
it will work with a 3300 engine system. The paperwork only talks about using it
on a Rotax.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300 |
You could ask on the user-to-user MGL site: http://www.mglavionicsusers.org
in the "Singles Products" forum.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris Sinfield
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: MLG Avionics RPM on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Eddie
Its the same price as the big VDO RPM guage with the $ the way it is,
provided it will work with a 3300 engine system. The paperwork only talks
about using it on a Rotax.
Chris
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