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1. 10:22 AM - L-Angle Part No? (pilot4pay)
2. 10:39 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 10:44 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Keith Ashcraft)
4. 10:50 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Craig Payne)
5. 10:54 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Phil Maxson)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Carlos Sa)
7. 11:06 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Jay Bannister)
8. 11:19 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Jon Croke)
9. 11:34 AM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Steven Freeeman)
10. 12:11 PM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (Malcolm Hunt)
11. 03:09 PM - Re: L-Angle Part No? (JohnDRead@aol.com)
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| Subject: | L-Angle Part No? |
Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750. or
801.
I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the cost of
the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally built kit, I
can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg for shipping. Called
Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle and it's .025 thick.
She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further. I'm sure that there's
more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just don't have a set of plans
to look it up.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
Hi Craig,
I agree with the response you got from Zenith. All the "L" parts on my
CH601XL are .025 thick.
You should be able to get a local sheet metal shop to bend some metal
for you. The details that are important are the alloy (6061-t6) and the
bend radius (probably 1/8").
Good luck,
Paul
Camas, WA
On 8/7/2012 10:19 AM, pilot4pay wrote:
>
> Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
> I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750.
or 801.
> I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the cost
of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally built kit,
I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg for shipping.
Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle and it's .025 thick.
She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further. I'm sure that there's
more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just don't have a set of plans
to look it up.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --------
> Craig Smith
> CH640 builder
> SN: 0078
>
> "Just think how stupid the average person is,
> and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
> --George Carlin
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380297#380297
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
For the 701, they are just a standard "L", no real part number, but they ar
e the 0.025" thick parts. Without making some yourself, you might have rely
on calling Zenith again. Did you call Zenair or Zenithair? =0AZenair.com i
s in Canada and Zenithair.com is in Missouri.=0A=0AKeith=0ACH701 - scratch
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ds to a 601/650, 701/750. or 801.=0AI'm building a 640, but to order parts
from Canada I pay three times the cost of the parts in shipping. If I can g
et a drawing no from a locally built kit, I can order from the good ol USA,
and not pay an arm and a leg for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady
says she knows only one l angle and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to li
ft a finger to look any further. I'm sure that there's more than one kind o
f angle in the other kits, just don't have a set of plans to look it up.=0A
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| Subject: | L-Angle Part No? |
I don't know of a 0.040 L in the 601 or 701.
FWIW I bend my own 0.025 standard L's is a simple wooden press brake. The
same technique should work for 0.040. I wrote an article on this for the
Zenith newsletter in 2009. If you are interested I can e-mail you the text
and photos.
-- Craig Payne
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Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750.
or 801.
I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
cost of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally
built kit, I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg
for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle
and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further.
I'm sure that there's more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just
don't have a set of plans to look it up.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that
half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380297#380297
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
The specs for the L-angles are specified in some of the up-front documentation,
(builders general instructions) and when I received them the only part number
on the label was "L Angle".
This is from memory.
Phil Maxson
601XLB/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
Craig, the "generic" L angles do not have part numbers, they are simply
marked "L" in the plans and they are 0.025" thick.
Is there any other clue you can provide so people can try to locate your
particular L angle in the plans?
For instance, is it in the wings, fuse, tail feathers?
You could also try to talk to (or email) Caleb.
Good luck
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 7 August 2012 13:19, pilot4pay <pilot4profit@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
>
> Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
> I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650,
> 701/750. or 801.
> I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
> cost of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally
> built kit, I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg
> for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l
> angle and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any
> further. I'm sure that there's more than one kind of angle in the other
> kits, just don't have a set of plans to look it up.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --------
> Craig Smith
> CH640 builder
> SN: 0078
>
> "Just think how stupid the average person is,
> and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
> --George Carlin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
Did you not use part number 6B2-1 or 6B2-2 ?
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From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2012 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: L-Angle Part No?
Hi Craig,
I agree with the response you got from Zenith. All the "L" parts on my
CH601XL are .025 thick.
You should be able to get a local sheet metal shop to bend some metal
for you. The details that are important are the alloy (6061-t6) and the
bend radius (probably 1/8").
Good luck,
Paul
Camas, WA
On 8/7/2012 10:19 AM, pilot4pay wrote:
t>
>
> Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm
?
> I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/7
50.
or 801.
> I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
cost
of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally built ki
t, I
can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg for shipping.
Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle and it's .02
5
thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further. I'm sure that
there's more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just don't have a se
t of
plans to look it up.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --------
> Craig Smith
> CH640 builder
> SN: 0078
>
> "Just think how stupid the average person is,
> and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
> --George Carlin
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380297#380297
>
>
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| Subject: | L-Angle Part No? |
If you don't mind 20 X 22 X .040 then use: 7F3-1
That is the 701 Fuselage longeron
Jon
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Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750.
or 801.
I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
cost of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally
built kit, I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg
for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle
and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further.
I'm sure that there's more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just
don't have a set of plans to look it up.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
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| Subject: | L-Angle Part No? |
Rear Top Longeron 6-B-2 -1 on the 650 plans is .040 material bent to 90
degrees. it is 1,970 mm long with 20mm flanges. If the extra 3mm on the
flanges is not a problem this would be a good fit.
6-B-2-2 is the same thin but only 200mm long.
Any angle that is not a standard .025 "L" angle with 20mm flanges will have
a specific part number as it is not an "L" angle.
A .040 angle would be tough to make on your own if you don't have a good
brake.
Steve
PS Shirley is a piece of work sometimes!
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Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750.
or 801.
I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
cost of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally
built kit, I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg
for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle
and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further.
I'm sure that there's more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just
don't have a set of plans to look it up.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that
half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380297#380297
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| Subject: | L-Angle Part No? |
Craig
Had a look at the CH601XL, CH701SP and CH750 plans and no standard angles
in 0.040" material is called; up the following parts are in 0.040" and all
have .125" root radius.
On the 601XL the rear Longerons (6B2-1) have 22 x 22 legs, the firewall
stiffeners 6B6-3 have 22 x 40 legs and the seat panel angle (6B16-5) have 20
x 20 legs.
On the 701SP the Longerons (7F3-1) have 20 x 22 legs, top angle stiffener to
firewall (7F7-7SP) both legs 20 as are those to the corner angle (7F9-9SP)
to the fuselage.
On the CH750 the horizontal stabilizer(75T2-1) uses 19x19 with the Cabin
corner angle (75F7-8) 20 x 20
So there you have it, no standards dimensions. Are you certain that the
legs you require are 19 x 19? If so it would be a simple job to fold some
up.
If you are still uncertain suggest you e-mail Caleb Gerbhardt at Zenithair,
he is always very helpful but may take some days to respond as I think he
likes to keep busy!
Best Regards
Malcolm Hunt
Plans builder from England
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Do any Zenith builders know a part no. for an L-angle .040t and 19mmx19mm?
I was hoping that I could get a part that corresponds to a 601/650, 701/750.
or 801.
I'm building a 640, but to order parts from Canada I pay three times the
cost of the parts in shipping. If I can get a drawing no from a locally
built kit, I can order from the good ol USA, and not pay an arm and a leg
for shipping. Called Zenith and the old lady says she knows only one l angle
and it's .025 thick. She wasn't going to lift a finger to look any further.
I'm sure that there's more than one kind of angle in the other kits, just
don't have a set of plans to look it up.
Thanks in advance.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that
half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380297#380297
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| Subject: | Re: L-Angle Part No? |
If your attitude was better the "old Lady" would have given you all the
help you need!! If you have a legal set of plans the size of the "L" will be
on the plans.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
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