---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/27/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:39 AM - Re: I finally finished Phase I. (William Dominguez) 2. 12:50 PM - Re: I finally finished Phase I. (Larry McFarland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:34 AM PST US From: William Dominguez Subject: Re: Zenith-List: I finally finished Phase I. Congratulations Paul and thanks for the info.=0A=0A=0AWilliam Dominguez=0AZ odiac 601XLP Plans=0AMiami Florida=0Ahttp://sites.google.com/site/billplane /=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Paul Mulwitz =0ATo: zenith601-list ; zenith-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:24 PM=0ASubject: Zenit h-List: I finally finished Phase I.=0A =0A=0AMy Zodiac XL, N773PM, finally completed Phase I testing and was signed off today.=0A=0AI'm sure many folk s on these lists had doubts I would ever reach=0A that point, and so did I.- After 7 years of work and waiting for=0A design changes the battl e is finally over.- =0A=0AIf I can do it then anybody can!=0A=0AFor those who want details:=0A=0AI've found I like using 1/2 flaps on takeoff and pr efer full flaps=0A on landings.- Full flaps works on takeoff for a min imum roll but I=0A am uncomfortable with the control available at such s low speeds.-=0A Takeoff with no flaps works fine but uses a lot more r unway.=0A=0AEasy cruise seems to be around 2700 rpm giving around 110 KIAS. -=0A Push in the throttle and it is easy to get over 120.- I don't h ave=0A wheel pants.- I didn't bother doing a formal calibration on the =0A airspeed with standard pitot tube and adjacent static tube but I=0A have watched the ground speed compared to airspeed with low winds=0A and they seem to be very close to each other.- =0A=0AMy normal landing wi th no traffic issues starts with slowing to 70=0A KIAS before pattern en try (to keep from running over Cubs and=0A Champs).- I slow to 60 on d ownwind and pull power to idle just past=0A the numbers.- A normal app roach has me adding full flaps either on=0A base leg or final.- Some t imes I slow to 55 or below on final to get=0A more sink but normal appro ach is at 60.- I also have done slips with=0A all flap positions with some success.- There is no loss of control=0A in slips but increased s ink requires a deep cross controlled slip.=0A=0AUseful load winds up being just over 200 pounds for passenger and=0A baggage.- This includes my s omewhat overweight body and full fuel=0A (24 gal.).=0A=0AI have not done enough cross country flying to have a good idea of=0A fuel consumption. - I would guess at normal cruise the flow is around=0A 5 GPH.=0A=0AI c an't really report stall speed since I can't get the plane to=0A stall. - It just mushes.=0A=0AI made a couple of small design changes to make it fly just a little=0A better.- The first was to add about 20 square in ches to the elevator=0A trim tab.- I have a full width tab and still c ouldn't trim out=0A approach speeds with full flaps.- I also added str akes to the bottom=0A rear fuselage area.- I was hoping to get some ya w stability and=0A failed, but it does seem just a little bit happier fl ying straight=0A with the strakes.=0A=0APaul=0ACamas, WA=0AXL, Jab. 3300 entering Phase II ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:25 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: I finally finished Phase I. Congratulations Paul, A real achievement and I'm very pleased for your grit and success in this. Do fly safe, Larry McFarland From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:25 PM Subject: Zenith-List: I finally finished Phase I. My Zodiac XL, N773PM, finally completed Phase I testing and was signed off today. I'm sure many folks on these lists had doubts I would ever reach that point, and so did I. After 7 years of work and waiting for design changes the battle is finally over. If I can do it then anybody can! For those who want details: I've found I like using 1/2 flaps on takeoff and prefer full flaps on landings. Full flaps works on takeoff for a minimum roll but I am uncomfortable with the control available at such slow speeds. Takeoff with no flaps works fine but uses a lot more runway. Easy cruise seems to be around 2700 rpm giving around 110 KIAS. Push in the throttle and it is easy to get over 120. I don't have wheel pants. I didn't bother doing a formal calibration on the airspeed with standard pitot tube and adjacent static tube but I have watched the ground speed compared to airspeed with low winds and they seem to be very close to each other. My normal landing with no traffic issues starts with slowing to 70 KIAS before pattern entry (to keep from running over Cubs and Champs). I slow to 60 on downwind and pull power to idle just past the numbers. A normal approach has me adding full flaps either on base leg or final. Some times I slow to 55 or below on final to get more sink but normal approach is at 60. I also have done slips with all flap positions with some success. There is no loss of control in slips but increased sink requires a deep cross controlled slip. Useful load winds up being just over 200 pounds for passenger and baggage. This includes my somewhat overweight body and full fuel (24 gal.). I have not done enough cross country flying to have a good idea of fuel consumption. I would guess at normal cruise the flow is around 5 GPH. I can't really report stall speed since I can't get the plane to stall. It just mushes. I made a couple of small design changes to make it fly just a little better. The first was to add about 20 square inches to the elevator trim tab. I have a full width tab and still couldn't trim out approach speeds with full flaps. I also added strakes to the bottom rear fuselage area. I was hoping to get some yaw stability and failed, but it does seem just a little bit happier flying straight with the strakes. Paul Camas, WA XL, Jab. 3300 entering Phase II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.