---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/26/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:02 PM - DAR experience. (rayj) 2. 01:03 PM - DAR experience (rayj) 3. 01:19 PM - Re: DAR experience (rayj) 4. 01:25 PM - Re: DAR experience. (Paul Mulwitz) 5. 01:41 PM - Re: DAR experience. (rayj) 6. 04:34 PM - Re: Zenith 650 Question (Tim Juhl) 7. 08:53 PM - Re: DAR experience (JohnDRead@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:14 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Zenith-List: DAR experience. Greetings, I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their DARin the Minnesota area. Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. All privateemails willremain confidential. Thanks in advance. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:03 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Zenith-List: DAR experience Greetings, I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their DARin the Minnesota area. Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. All privateemails willremain confidential. Thanks in advance. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:48 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR experience Sorry about the duplicate. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 03/26/2013 03:02 PM, rayj wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during > my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their > DARin the Minnesota area. > > Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. > All privateemails willremain confidential. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN. > > "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, > and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:37 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR experience. Hi Raymond, I learned this lesson the hard way. You can learn from my mistake. There are two distinct kinds of DARS - manufacturing DARS and maintenance DARS. Either one can inspect your E-AB plane and issue an airworthiness certificate, but at least where I live (Washington state) there is a huge difference in how much it will cost you and how long it will take to schedule your inspection. Each MIDO has a list of manufacturing DARS reporting to them. Each FSDO has maintenance DARs that report to them. So you contact your local MIDO to find a manufacturing DAR and FSDO to find a maintenance DAR. Now the punchline - you want a maintenance DAR. Mine charged $300 and showed up in a couple of days. The manufacturing DARs I contacted wanted a minimum of $1600 and about 6 months to schedule a visit. Good luck, Paul Camas, WA Zodiac XL, just signed out of phase I On 3/26/2013 1:01 PM, rayj wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during > my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their > DARin the Minnesota area. > > Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. > All privateemails willremain confidential. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN. > > "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, > and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:20 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR experience. Paul, Thanks VERY much for the tip. I just talked to the MSDO, so I'll be sure to talk to the FSDO from now on. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 03/26/2013 03:25 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote: > Hi Raymond, > > I learned this lesson the hard way. You can learn from my mistake. > > There are two distinct kinds of DARS - manufacturing DARS and > maintenance DARS. Either one can inspect your E-AB plane and issue an > airworthiness certificate, but at least where I live (Washington > state) there is a huge difference in how much it will cost you and how > long it will take to schedule your inspection. > > Each MIDO has a list of manufacturing DARS reporting to them. Each > FSDO has maintenance DARs that report to them. So you contact your > local MIDO to find a manufacturing DAR and FSDO to find a maintenance DAR. > > Now the punchline - you want a maintenance DAR. Mine charged $300 and > showed up in a couple of days. The manufacturing DARs I contacted > wanted a minimum of $1600 and about 6 months to schedule a visit. > > Good luck, > > Paul > Camas, WA > Zodiac XL, just signed out of phase I > > On 3/26/2013 1:01 PM, rayj wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during >> my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their >> DARin the Minnesota area. >> >> Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the >> list. All privateemails willremain confidential. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> -- >> Raymond Julian >> Kettle River, MN. >> >> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, >> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine >> * >> >> >> * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:37 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith 650 Question From: "Tim Juhl" Randy, I'm building an XL and all I have to refer to are the upgrade plans. The Aileron Rod Hole doubler 6ZU1-8 is made of 0.032 and measures 230 mm long. The hole for the push rod is 38 mm. The doubler is sized so that the bottom edge is bent to conform to the lower edge of the spar (72) and the top edge lies under the 0.040 angle that runs the full length of the spar. I don't know if the 650 is any different in this area so take it for what it's worth. Good luck! Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Wing modifications done - back working on the fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397141#397141 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:58 PM PST US From: JohnDRead@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR experience Your local EAA chapter should be able to help. Regards, John CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300 Cell: 719-494-4567 Home: 303-648-3261 In a message dated 3/26/2013 2:55:36 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, raymondj@frontiernet.net writes: Greetings, I'm in northern Minnesota and I need to pick a DAR to work with during my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their DAR in the Minnesota area. Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. All private emails will remain confidential. Thanks in advance. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. 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