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1. 06:19 PM - wiring the control stick (Carlos Sa)
2. 06:38 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Jay Bannister)
3. 06:51 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Carlos Sa)
4. 06:55 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 06:57 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Steve Freeman (SDS))
6. 07:24 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Carlos Sa)
7. 08:50 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (JohnDRead@aol.com)
8. 09:11 PM - Re: wiring the control stick (Steve Freeman (SDS))
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| Subject: | wiring the control stick |
Hello,
What have you used for wiring the control stick?
At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it (other than
PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am going to use a
Tosten grip ( http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ )
which comes wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the
buttons, but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with one
more button.)
I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a bunch of
single conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The multi-conductor
cables I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the smallest 100' long.)
I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this:
http://images.pcworld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_original.jpg)
that I could cut and attach the shorter length to the grip and use the
longer piece to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?) that the wires
are too thin...
Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
Thanks for your comments
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: wiring the control stick |
Carlos,
Are you planning to control your radar, missiles and machine guns from that
stick ? (;>)
Seriously, why do you need anything more that a PTT button on the stick ?
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 8:23 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: wiring the control stick
Hello,
What have you used for wiring the control stick?
At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it (other than
PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am going to use a T
osten grip ( http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ ) w
hich comes wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the but
tons, but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with one more
button.)
I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a bunch of singl
e conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The multi-conductor cables
I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the smallest 100' long.)
I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this: http://images.pcw
orld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_original.jpg ) that I c
ould cut and attach the shorter length to the grip and use the longer piece
to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?) that the wires are too thin..
.
Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
Thanks for your comments
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: wiring the control stick |
Hello, Jay - I don't know how many buttons I need.
I just think it would be better to have too many than to be missing on.
One use that come to mind is activation of trim tabs. Others might come up
(or not) when I design the panel and electrical stuff.
(PS: The radar and guns will be voice activated.)
Carlos
On 27 November 2013 21:38, Jay Bannister <jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
Carlos,
>
> Are you planning to control your radar, missiles and machine guns from
> that stick ? (;>)
>
> Seriously, why do you need anything more that a PTT button on the stick ?
>
> Jay
>
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| Subject: | Re: wiring the control stick |
Hi Carlos,
16 AWG wire is very large for this application. You will have a hard
time finding any sort of connector for this heavy wire. This is the
stuff used to wire houses.
I don't remember the name of the control on my plane but it is one of
the normal aircraft ones. I think I used 22 AWG wire from it down to
the bottom of the stick where I used a normal DB-9 connector set. This
allows removal of the stick without rewiring the plane. I also have a
bunch of Radio shack terminal blocks mounted behind the seats for the
wires going to the stick as well as the ones going out the wings and to
the tail. These blocks have little screws that hold the wires in place
and are very inexpensive.
My stick is a center Y version. It has PTT on the front and a 4 way
trim control on the top. Front and back control pitch trim while left
and right control aileron trim.
Good luck,
Paul
Camas, WA
On 11/27/2013 6:18 PM, Carlos Sa wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> What have you used for wiring the control stick?
>
> At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it (other
> than PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am going
> to use a Tosten grip (
> http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ ) which
> comes wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the
> buttons, but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with
> one more button.)
>
> I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a bunch of
> single conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The
> multi-conductor cables I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the
> smallest 100' long.)
>
> I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this:
> http://images.pcworld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_original.jpg
> ) that I could cut and attach the shorter length to the grip and use
> the longer piece to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?) that the
> wires are too thin...
>
>
> Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
>
>
> Thanks for your comments
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
> *
>
> *
-
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| Subject: | wiring the control stick |
Trim, Flaps, PPT on my stick. Woohooo! I also have a switch on stick
that cuts out the flaps so I can't hit them by accident.
Steve Freeman
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Bannister
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: wiring the control stick
Carlos,
Are you planning to control your radar, missiles and machine guns from
that stick ? (;>)
Seriously, why do you need anything more that a PTT button on the stick
?
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2013 8:23 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: wiring the control stick
Hello,
What have you used for wiring the control stick?
At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it (other
than PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am going to
use a Tosten grip (
http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ ) which comes
wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the buttons,
but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with one more
button.)
I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a bunch of
single conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The
multi-conductor cables I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the
smallest 100' long.)
I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this:
http://images.pcworld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_ori
ginal.jpg ) that I could cut and attach the shorter length to the grip
and use the longer piece to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?)
that the wires are too thin...
Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
Thanks for your comments
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: wiring the control stick |
Paul, thanks, this is good info.
Carlos
On 27 November 2013 21:54, Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> 16 AWG wire is very large for this application. You will have a hard time
> finding any sort of connector for this heavy wire. This is the stuff used
> to wire houses.
>
> I don't remember the name of the control on my plane but it is one of the
> normal aircraft ones. I think I used 22 AWG wire from it down to the
> bottom of the stick where I used a normal DB-9 connector set. This allows
> removal of the stick without rewiring the plane. I also have a bunch of
> Radio shack terminal blocks mounted behind the seats for the wires going to
> the stick as well as the ones going out the wings and to the tail. These
> blocks have little screws that hold the wires in place and are very
> inexpensive.
>
> My stick is a center Y version. It has PTT on the front and a 4 way trim
> control on the top. Front and back control pitch trim while left and right
> control aileron trim.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> Camas, WA
>
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| Subject: | Re: wiring the control stick |
Hi Carlo,
16 gauge wire is way to big for the stick wiring. My stick
grips came with 26 gauge wire which is adequate for any servo and the PTT.
I wired mine to a 15 pin Dsub. I have a center sub panel in my 701 that has
a mating dsub. If you would like a picture please let me know.
Regards, John Read
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 11/27/2013 7:21:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
carlossa52@gmail.com writes:
Hello,
What have you used for wiring the control stick?
At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it (other than
PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am going to use a
Tosten grip ( http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ )
which comes wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the
buttons, but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with one more
button.)
I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a bunch of
single conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The multi-conductor
cables I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the smallest 100' long.)
I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this:
http://images.pcworld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_original.jpg ) that I
could cut and attach the shorter length to the grip and use the longer
piece to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?) that the wires are too
thin...
Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
Thanks for your comments
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
(http://www.aeroelectric.com/)
(http://www.buildersbooks.com/)
(http://www.homebuilthelp.com/)
(http://www.mypilotstore.com/)
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| Subject: | wiring the control stick |
If you guys need sticks wired email this guy, George Race -
george@mrrace.com. Very reasonable price, excellent workmanship and you
will get done what you need done. My sticks work perfectly and are
adapted to the environment I wanted.
He customized my Ray Allen Control Sticks. If you go with G307 he can
get you some pretty interesting configurations.
If you guys want pictures of my west up let me know.
Steve Freeman
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JohnDRead@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: wiring the control stick
Hi Carlo,
16 gauge wire is way to big for the stick wiring. My
stick grips came with 26 gauge wire which is adequate for any servo and
the PTT. I wired mine to a 15 pin Dsub. I have a center sub panel in my
701 that has a mating dsub. If you would like a picture please let me
know.
Regards, John Read
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 11/27/2013 7:21:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
carlossa52@gmail.com writes:
Hello,
What have you used for wiring the control stick?
At this time I still don't know what buttons I will have on it
(other than PTT), but I would like to do the wiring once. Period. I am
going to use a Tosten grip (
http://www.tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/ ) which comes
wired with 10 wires 16 AWG. (I probably won't use all of the buttons,
but better have too many than wish I had bought a grip with one more
button.)
I am interested on the wiring used (multi-conductor cable? a
bunch of single conductors? type, source?) and the connector. (The
multi-conductor cables I found on the 'net are sold in spools, the
smallest 100' long.)
I saw today a cable with D-sub 15 connectors ( like this:
http://images.pcworld.com/howto/graphics/193829-belkin_pcmonitor_606_ori
ginal.jpg ) that I could cut and attach the shorter length to the grip
and use the longer piece to connect to the panel. Problem is (is it?)
that the wires are too thin...
Interested in not reinventing the wheel...
Thanks for your comments
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
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