---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/08/15: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:01 AM - Re: Firewall Paint (FLYaDIVE) 2. 01:29 PM - Re: Firewall Paint (Bryan Martin) 3. 01:32 PM - Re: Firewall Paint (Bryan Martin) 4. 02:45 PM - Re: Firewall Paint () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint From: FLYaDIVE Paul: The way I learned it some 50+ years ago was: Keep It Simple Stupid - Make it Easy. I guess the 'it' part never made it into the anachronism... Maybe that was just a part of Keeping it Simple ;-) Barry , Jan 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, wrote: > Hey, Barry---I have long understood the meaning of k.I.S.S. > (understood, but generally not followed,) but what does the addition of > M.E. stand for? > > Chris--- Don't bother to paint the firewall; it's not worth the effort. > > Paul R. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* FLYaDIVE > *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint > > Why Chris? > > 1 - The firewall is already metal. > 2 - You are not going to get any better fire protection than the metal. > 3 - The problem is not fire proofing - It is ADHERENCE to the metal. > 4 - You would have to do experiments to prove out the temperature range of > the paint and the operation conditions. > 5 - Since there is an expansion to this paint - Would the expansion cause > a loss of bonding? > 6 - What happens to the paint AFTER it expands? Does it return 100% back > to its original size and bond strength? Which reflects back to Item #3. > > Too many variables. The K.I.S.S. M.E. part of this build has already > passed. What has to be addressed now is Adherence - Corrosion Protection > and Looks. > > Barry > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Christoph Steiner > wrote: > >> mcr01steiner@mac.com> >> >> >> > >> > What are peoples thoughts on painting the galvanized firewall? What >> paint, surface prep, etc? Let me know. I'm at that point in my build >> where I need to paint it if its getting painted! >> > >> > Doug >> >> How about using an intumescent paint ? >> >> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint From: Bryan Martin Leave it bare. It wont rust, theres no paint that might burn off and its easier to inspect for cracks and such. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive. > On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:49 PM, dfmoeller wrote: > > > What are peoples thoughts on painting the galvanized firewall? What paint, surface prep, etc? Let me know. I'm at that point in my build where I need to paint it if its getting painted! > > Doug > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint From: Bryan Martin I didnt paint anything on the engine side. I glued an insulating blanket on the cabin side to help keep the heat and noise out. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus re-drive. > On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:49 PM, dfmoeller wrote: > > > What are peoples thoughts on painting the galvanized firewall? What paint, surface prep, etc? Let me know. I'm at that point in my build where I need to paint it if its getting painted! > > Doug > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:16 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint Got it. If I ever make anything simple, I'll use that. Thangya, thangya verr mush..... ----- Original Message ----- From: FLYaDIVE To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint Paul: The way I learned it some 50+ years ago was: Keep It Simple Stupid - Make it Easy. I guess the 'it' part never made it into the anachronism... Maybe that was just a part of Keeping it Simple ;-) Barry , Jan 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, > wrote: Hey, Barry---I have long understood the meaning of k.I.S.S. (understood, but generally not followed,) but what does the addition of M.E. stand for? Chris--- Don't bother to paint the firewall; it's not worth the effort. Paul R. ----- Original Message ----- From: FLYaDIVE To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Firewall Paint Why Chris? 1 - The firewall is already metal. 2 - You are not going to get any better fire protection than the metal. 3 - The problem is not fire proofing - It is ADHERENCE to the metal. 4 - You would have to do experiments to prove out the temperature range of the paint and the operation conditions. 5 - Since there is an expansion to this paint - Would the expansion cause a loss of bonding? 6 - What happens to the paint AFTER it expands? Does it return 100% back to its original size and bond strength? Which reflects back to Item #3. Too many variables. The K.I.S.S. M.E. part of this build has already passed. What has to be addressed now is Adherence - Corrosion Protection and Looks. Barry On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Christoph Steiner > wrote: > > > > What are peoples thoughts on painting the galvanized firewall? What paint, surface prep, etc? Let me know. 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