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1. 05:11 PM - Handy Tool-Jawhorse (Barrie Smith)
2. 05:50 PM - Re: N601JD First Flight (Ron Lendon)
3. 05:46 PM - Re: What did you do today? (kmccune)
4. 05:09 PM - Re: NACA Scoops (jaybannist@cs.com)
5. 05:52 PM - Re: NACA Scoops (Lawrence Webber)
6. 05:22 PM - Re: Best GPS today (Tommy Walker)
7. 05:51 PM - Re: tight fit tool (additional test + video) (Carlos Sa)
8. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Best GPS today (Paul Mulwitz)
9. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (jaybannist@cs.com)
10. 05:33 PM - Re: Canopy vents (Leo Gates)
11. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Canopy vents (Rick Lindstrom)
12. 05:10 PM - Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 (Sabrina)
13. 05:10 PM - XL/650 new airworthiness certificates suspended ()
14. 05:23 PM - Re: Bottom Hatch (leinad)
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| Subject: | Handy Tool-Jawhorse |
Hey Gang,
I'm pretty new to the list but I'd like to share a tool I've found to be
quite handy over the years. I'm sure many of you know already and some have
probably shared it here at one point but anywho, it's called the Jawhorse.
It's like a saw horse and vise in one collapsable unit. Some great features
include; easy storage, very stable, almost all steel, the "vise" is foot
activated, the jaw will hold material up to 36" in width. It's awesome when
you need that extra set of hands, great for drilling metal and wood. You
can see it here http://www.performancetoolcenter.com/rk9000.html Scroll
down and there's a cool video.
Barrie Smith
Spring Hill, FL
-Just starting CH650/Jab3300 - N650BS-
Cessna 172 to Tower "Control, please repeat you're SURE you want me to taxi
in FRONT of that 757"
Tower to Cessna "Roger that, but don't worry, Captain said he's not hungry"
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| Subject: | Re: N601JD First Flight |
Congratulations John.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: What did you do today? |
Made the blanks for the flaperon ribs today.
Kevin
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Discover.
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Bill,
You weren't specific, so I have to assume that you are talking about an XL style
canopy on your HDS.? My XL drawings call out a Latch Casing P/N 1185K.? The
ZAC parts list for an XL canopy shows Non-Locking Latch Assembly P/N 6C4; and
Locking Latch Assembly P/N 6C4-1 Locking.
Jay Bannister
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@windstream.net>
Sent: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: NACA Scoops
Jay-
??? Thanks- you can navigate through
the Zenith site better than I can. Speaking of which- can you find the latch
assemblies for the canopy? I thought they came with the lock, but not
so.
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From:
jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: NACA
Scoops
Bill,
I don't see
anything in ACS that closely resembles the ZAC inlet; and they are $20 to
$80.? The ZAC part is 6B20-4 and two of them cost $11.10.
Jay
Bannister
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From: Bill Naumuk <naumuk@windstream.net>
zenith list <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent:
Fri, 12 Jun 2009 5:09 pm
Subject: Zenith-List: NACA Scoops
All-
??? Can anyone provide the ACS
part no. for the NACA cabin fresh air scoops? You know, the ones that you
mount over triangular holes in the forward fuse side skins.
??? Thanks.
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS
N601MG/Corvair 95%
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Bill like you i never got the rest of the builders manual it
just kind of drifted off..... how many G drawings and how many S drawings
didyou get
Larry
> From: naumuk@windstream.net
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: NACA Scoops
> Date: Fri=2C 12 Jun 2009 19:56:18 -0400
>
>
> Leo-
> Where in the heck did you get the drawing? I don't even have a "B"
> section in my prints!
> Out of curiosity=2C how many pages of prints did you get=2C and how many
> pages in the builder's manual? I swear I didn't get a complete set of
> either. Not that it really matters at this point.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leo Gates" <leo@zuehlfield.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday=2C June 12=2C 2009 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: NACA Scoops
>
>
> > Bill=2C I made mine from scrap .025=2C they work great. Zenith drawing
> > attached.
> >
> > Bill Naumuk wrote:
> >> All-
> >> Can anyone provide the ACS part no. for the NACA cabin fresh air
> >> scoops? You know=2C the ones that you mount over triangular holes in t
he
> >> forward fuse side skins.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Bill Naumuk
> >> Townville=2C Pa.
> >> HDS N601MG/Corvair 95%
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> >>
> >>
> >> *
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Best GPS today |
Thanks for the replies.
I am actually looking for something that a non GPS user can learn to use fairly
quickly. The buyer for my plane asked me to buy him one. I noticed the 2000C
at ACS was $699. My friend Rick Roberts (of CH701-Suzuki fame) has one and
likes it.
What the buyer needs is something with a large screen that is easy to use.
I had an Airmap 300 back in the 90's and it was pretty good. It did lose it's
GPS signal on occasions. I read some comments on some of the lists where people
said their 2000C lost it's signal....
Just trying to get all the facts before I spend the gentleman's money.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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Tommy Walker
N8701 - Anniston, AL
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| Subject: | Re: tight fit tool (additional test + video) |
Yes, it sucks, doesn't it. It is hard to make a hole in a predefined spot.
I don't know if a threaded bit would make any difference: the tool comes
with 4 collets, and they are just about the same in "wobliness level".
Thanks for taking the time.
Carlos
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2009/7/12 <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Carlo,n
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Carlos Sa<carlossa52@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Paul, does your shake as bad as this?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R6gwzkulI
>
> Yikes! I just went out and tried mine, and it has *no* discernible
> runout. That said, mine has a red plastic part (as opposed to your
> yellow -- does that make a difference?); I bought it a few years ago;
> and I'm using 1/4-20 threaded bits, not a collet.
>
> Ihab
>
> --
> Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Best GPS today |
Hi Tommy,
I'm afraid you are trying to live the impossible dream. GPS units
just don't come in easy to use. The number of issues the user must
understand and the number of choices he has just make this a device
with a really steep learning curve.
Last year I went to a safety seminar on using GPS. It was sponsored
by the FAA and AOPA Safety Foundation. It was mostly about using GPS
for IFR navigation, but many of the issues raised have application in
VFR flight too.
Perhaps the most telling point that I remember was about single pilot
IFR flight. This was a very common event a few decades ago. One of
my friends flew hard IFR often in his Globe Swift - a twitchy plane
with only 2 hours of fuel. He thought nothing of it. Today, single
pilot IFR is considered a safety hazard - particularly if you don't
have a working autopilot. The reason? GPS. These little gizmos
take so much attention that a pilot can't fly the plane and twiddle
the GPS at the same time.
Which ever GPS you select, I think you should plan on spending many
hours getting familiar with it. That way you can program it on the
ground before takeoff and when you need to do something to it in the
air you know exactly which button to push to get what you want.
Paul
XL grounded
At 05:21 PM 7/12/2009, you wrote:
>What the buyer needs is something with a large screen that is easy to use.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Bill,
I cut the hole with a Dremel.? It was fitted with a special Dremel attachment that
has a center point and mounts the Dremel and cutter at a specific radius (Dremel
part no. 678-01 Circle Cutter & Straight Edge Guide) The cutter was a tiny
drum with spiral cutting edges.? I think the cutter is bit no. 194.? Worked
like a charm !
I used this same bit to do a whole lot of detailed aluminum cutting.? It will also
work on thin steel, but wears out rather quickly.
Jay Bannister
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From: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents?? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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601XL Under Construction
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Larry,
I used two Plastic Eyeball Air Vents from ACS, $17.95 each in gray,
black, white or beige. These are connected to NACA vents on the side of
the fuselage, per ZAC, and connected via scat tubing. I installed a 120
mm square 12 volt muffin/exhaust fan, with a metal finger guard on the
rear of the baggage compartment. The muffin fan is p/n
707-GDA1238-12BB, cost is $20.12, Finger Guard is p/n 5912-LZ30, cost
$5.55 from Mouser Electronics, www.mouser.com.
I live in South Texas, 20 miles from San Antonio, so have several HOT
summers proof of concept experience.
Before engine start, canopy closed, turn on muffin/exhaust fan and point
left eye ball vent at my face. Slight breeze. Start engine, air is
now blowing nicely on my face/upper body. The air blowing on my face is
probably 95 - 100 degrees but it still cools. End of climb check list
has: Turn off exhaust fan. Before landing checklist has: Turn on
exhaust fan.
Leo Gates
N601Z
CH601HDS TDO
lwinger wrote:
>
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --------
> Larry Winger
> Tustin, CA
> Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
> Fuselage on gear
> Canopy nearly complete
> www.mykitlog.com/lwinger
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy vents |
Rich used a standard hole saw gently turned (slowly) by hand on warmed up plex,
attacking it from both sides. It took awhile, but the results were pretty good.
Rick Lindstrom
----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pagan
Sent: Aug 12, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
What are y'all using to cut the plexi for the 2.5" hole?
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
601XL QBK/Corvair/N565BW (RES)
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Gig Giacona <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy vents
lwinger wrote:
> What have you used for in-canopy vents? Source info would also help.
>
> Thanks.
Here's what I've got. I haven't installed them yet.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/vistavents.php
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| Subject: | Re: FAA grounds 601 and 650 |
I must admit that the Zenith upgrade videos on their factory demo are good.
I can't wait to see the center spar ones.
I would really like to see the spar cap change out in person, esp. if anyone is
solid riveting the new spar cap.
I am driving from Chicago to Miami the weekend before Christmas and back the weekend
after Christmas. If anyone, by that time, has their upgrade kit in hand
and aircraft apart along the route, I would love to be a second pair of hands
for a few hours.
I don't have enough free time to do anything on my airplane until Spring Break.
By that time we should have a couple dozen flying and proving the new design.
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| Subject: | XL/650 new airworthiness certificates suspended |
>From the EAA News hot off the presses. Just in case you haven't seen it.
Unprecedented Action
FAA grounds Zodiac 601XL and 605 S-LSA until compliance with AMD Safety
Alert
For the first time in history, the FAA has suspended issuance of any new
airworthiness certificates for an entire fleet of special light-sport
aircraft (S-LSA) - the Zodiac CH601XL and CH650 - and the FAA will not issue
airworthiness certificates to experimental light-sport aircraft (E-LSA) and
amateur built versions of CH601XL and CH605 aircraft until modified in a
manner consistent with the manufacturer's safety alert is performed.
http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-11-12_safety_alert.asp
Mitch Hodges
N601MH (HDS)
Wings under perpetual construction
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Hatch |
Chris,
Thanks for the information. Could you tell me what the fasterner spacing is on
6-ADO-1?
Dan
chris Sinfield wrote:
> Zenith have an option Access door plan 6-ADO-1 which shows where to put it.
>
> 965 to 1535 back from front end of 6B1-4 door 560L X 500W
>
> L angles at 1135 go to sides of hatch only
> Plan calls for frame cutout with Z angles
> replace L at 1535 with Z
> cut L at 1135
> Add Z angle at 985 (riveted with 6G3-5) add Z along sides..
>
> Call Zenith if need more info or that page..
> Chris
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