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1. 06:31 AM - Re: Trim tab play (cookwithgas)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: Upper Engine Mount (BRS Style) (cookwithgas)
3. 07:14 AM - Zenair Newsletter Calendar request (Jon Croke)
4. 08:46 AM - Trim tab play (craig@craigandjean.com)
5. 09:45 AM - Re: Trim tab play (ashontz)
6. 10:01 AM - For Sale - RMI uMonitor - NEW - All Probes and Upgrades! (Matt Dralle)
7. 10:56 AM - For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database (Matt Dralle)
8. 11:43 AM - Re: Nuvite Polishing (cookwithgas)
9. 12:08 PM - Re: Nuvite Polishing (ashontz)
10. 02:56 PM - For Sale - RMI uEncoder - NEW - Assembled (Matt Dralle)
11. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Nuvite Polishing (Bryan Martin)
12. 05:32 PM - front fuselage skins (Davcoberly@wmconnect.com)
13. 05:45 PM - Re: front fuselage skins (Cndmovn)
14. 06:50 PM - Re: front fuselage skins (lwhitlow)
15. 06:57 PM - Re: Nuvite Polishing (ashontz)
16. 09:21 PM - Right wing completed (Maarten Versteeg)
17. 10:15 PM - Re: Right wing completed (Terry Turnquist)
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| Subject: | Re: Trim tab play |
Rob:
My tabs have a little wiggle in them and it is not noticeable in flight. I don't
remember having much play in any of the holes, but when you put it all together
and add up all the little play in each moving part (including the hinge)
it all adds up to a little wiggle. There's a good lesson or three in this that
I tell everyone building -
1. Drill a test hole in a scrap part and try it first,
2. Cut all panels a little large and test fit first (for plans builders) and
3. Do a test bend on the brake on a scrap piece before making the final bend on
a large part.
One note about the trim tab since I was flying yesterday and noticed this again.
It is hard to trim out for level flight with a quick touch of the button.
It is just that sensitive and maybe it moves too fast. If there were a way to
slow it down I'd probably try it. I use the standard RAC servo called out on
the plans.
My elevator tab is the large version that I re-made after seeing one at Sun-n Fun.
First one: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/3_23_03_Trimtab.jpg
Secone try: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_8_05_Trim.jpg
It works well and I wouldn't recommend flying without the elevator trim. I don't
use the aileron trim but I haven't flown without someone in the right seat
so we will see.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
601XL/Corvair
finished & flying (58 hours)
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| Subject: | Re: Upper Engine Mount (BRS Style) |
Gig:
Yes. There is a stiffener attached under the fuselage here:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/4_29_06_BRS_Underside.JPG
It is also attached to the firewall here:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/2_19_05_Nosewheel.jpg
(See the two green stiffeners).
I'm sure there are many ways to accomplish the same thing. The rear harness also
connects to the bottom longeron via the step reinforcement here:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_3_06_BRS_Rear.JPG
Take care,
Scott.
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| Subject: | Zenair Newsletter Calendar request |
Zenith-listers,
I will be assuming the responsibility of editor for the Zenair
newsletter a little later this year (coinciding with the newsletter's
renewal period). This is the official publication of Zenith Aircraft to
communicate with the builders and flyers of their products.
One of the projects on the slate is creation of a Zenith builder's photo
calendar which will possess some unique characteristics: it will
released for mid year (July 08 to June 09, for example) and will feature
photos of the creations of Zenith builders and flyers (aircraft!) This
calendar will also list the important dates of national fly-ins and
shows (don't we always need to plan before those dates creep up on us!)
So... I need PHOTOS of your current project (finished or not) emailed
to me... anything that might look FUN and wonderful displayed on a
hanging calendar.... I will choose at least 12 of them (maybe more /
multiple pics per month, possibly) Of course, anyone that gets their
picture chosen will receive a free calendar, and if you are already a
newsletter subscriber (you get one anyway) then we'll have to come up
with another prize.
Also, we are in need of stories, news and tidbits from around the world
related to all things Zenith (building, flying, shows, etc) so please do
not hesitate to submit them to me. If you dont like writing, I can
arrange to do an interview with you (so I do the writing!)
Please submit your photos and writings to my email: jon@joncroke.com and
we'll assume that if you send me a picture you are giving me permission
to use it in the calendar/newsletter.
Dont be afraid to submit wild and crazy photos, too... like your child,
pet, etc seated in/on your partially/completed aircraft.... no need to
have a show stopping paint job.... be creative!
I understand that not everyone is a newsletter subscriber (nor wants to
be)... part of my job is to bridge that gap by adding value (like the
calendar and other features).
Thanks for your support! (Send ideas, too)
Jon
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Scott wrote: "One note about the trim tab since I was flying yesterday
and noticed this again. It is hard to trim out for level flight with a
quick touch of the button. It is just that sensitive and maybe it
moves too fast. If there were a way to slow it down I'd probably try
it. I use the standard RAC servo called out on the plans."
Ray Allen has a fix for this:
SPD-1 ... SERVO SPEED CONTROL
This compact unit enables you to slow the speed of your trim servo to
suit your individual installation. Measures 2.0(51 mm) x .5(13 mm) x
.8(20 mm).
$45
http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/accessories.html
http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACmedia/instructionsSPD.pdf
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Trim tab play |
You could try making a voltage divider out of a couple of power resistors and feed
6 or 9 volts into the motor instead of 12. That would slow it down for sure.
It'd probably still be powerful enough to move the tab.
do not archive.
cookwithgas wrote:
> Rob:
>
> My tabs have a little wiggle in them and it is not noticeable in flight. I don't
remember having much play in any of the holes, but when you put it all together
and add up all the little play in each moving part (including the hinge)
it all adds up to a little wiggle. There's a good lesson or three in this that
I tell everyone building -
> 1. Drill a test hole in a scrap part and try it first,
> 2. Cut all panels a little large and test fit first (for plans builders) and
> 3. Do a test bend on the brake on a scrap piece before making the final bend
on a large part.
>
> One note about the trim tab since I was flying yesterday and noticed this again.
It is hard to trim out for level flight with a quick touch of the button.
It is just that sensitive and maybe it moves too fast. If there were a way
to slow it down I'd probably try it. I use the standard RAC servo called out
on the plans.
>
> My elevator tab is the large version that I re-made after seeing one at Sun-n
Fun.
> First one: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/3_23_03_Trimtab.jpg
> Secone try: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_8_05_Trim.jpg
>
> It works well and I wouldn't recommend flying without the elevator trim. I don't
use the aileron trim but I haven't flown without someone in the right seat
so we will see.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> 601XL/Corvair
> finished & flying (58 hours)
--------
Andy Shontz
do not archive
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | For Sale - RMI uMonitor - NEW - All Probes and Upgrades! |
Dear Listers,
I am selling a new, never used, fully assembled RMI uMonitor with all the probes
for a 4-cylinder engine including Fuel Flow, 4ea EGT, 4ea CGT, Carb Temp, and
Manifold pressure. The uMonitor just had all of the latest hardware and software
updates factory installed including the new high contrast LCD display supporting
Fahrenheit temp readings AND the new LED fiberoptic backlight. Also
included is the Aircraft Extras RM-1B plugin harness extender for the uMonitor
which greatly simplifies the wiring installation.
The uMonitor is in new condition with no scratches and all installation material
and manuals. The pictures below are of the actual unit for sale. The table
below lists all of the items included.
I have nearly $2800 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200
plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first
served.
Please email me off list at dralle@matronics.com if you are interested.
Matt Dralle
List Admin / RV-4 Builder
1ea - RMI microMONITOR Assembled . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1299.00 $1299.00
1ea - Factory Upgrade of LCD (Fahrenheit Temp Display),
. . . . Fiberoptic LED Backlight, Latest Firmware. . . . . .$ 399.00 $ 399.00
1ea - Manifold Pressure Sensor 10.0 to 59.0 InHg. . . . . . $ 68.00 $ 68.00
2ea - EGT/CHT Multiplex Switch 2 to 6 cylinders . . . . . . $ 60.00 $ 120.00
1ea - Fuel Flow sensor, FloScan 201B-6 - .6 to 60.0 GPH. . .$ 230.00 $ 230.00
1ea - Carb Temp Sensor . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$ 55.00 $ 55.00
4ea - EGT Thermocouple - tubing clamp type . . . . . . . . .$ 65.00 $ 260.00
4ea - CHT Thermocouple - bayonet type. . . . . . . . . . . .$ 50.00 $ 200.00
1ea - RM-1B Harness Expander, Aircraft Extras. . . . . . . .$ 155.00 $ 155.00
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2786.00
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| Subject: | For Sale - Skyforce Skymap IIIC - NEW - Latest Database |
Dear Listers,
I am selling a new-in-box Skyforce Skymap IIIC full color GPS moving map with Topo.
The database and firmware were just upgraded 05/2008. Includes a Panel
Mounting bracket, GPS Antenna, cigarette lighter adapter, carrying case, and all
manuals. Brand new, never used. No scratches. The pictures below are of
the actual unit. The LCD color display on the IIIC is extremely nice and very
bright. Gives altitude readout. RS232 output.
I have over $2500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $2200 plus
shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first
served.
Please email me off list at dralle@matronics.com if you are interested.
Matt Dralle
List Admin / RV-4 Builder
1ea - Skyforce Skymap IIIC w/ GPS and Americas Database. . .$2367.00 . .$2367.00
1ea - Panel Mount. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$98.00 . . .$98.00
1ea - Firmware and Database Update 5/8/2008. . . . . . . . . .$50.00 . . .$50.00
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $2515.00
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| Subject: | Re: Nuvite Polishing |
Pat:
Mine will be the one with the dent in the bottom and yellow paint on the right
step. A story for another day - perhaps when we meet.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
PatrickW wrote:
> So when we all finally meet in person at OSH or SnF someday, how will we tell
our airplanes apart... [Laughing]
>
> - Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Nuvite Polishing |
I want to go with a military theme too. Problem is, the 601 series doesn't really
lend itself well to that idea. Maybe it's the side by side thing.
Polished and with the flaps down and taildragger mode, maybe something like this
p-51 mustang polish/paint job would look good.
http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/P51-Mustang%20Roush.jpg
DaveG601XL wrote:
> Pat, good point! Actually we did meet briefly at Oshkosh last year one afternoon
on the flight line. I believe it was just as the 601XL from the new england
area arrived after the air show and we both looked it over for a while. Hopefully
my polished XL will be the one with the military theme to it. I am still
working on this idea and have a ways to go.
>
> Good luck,
--------
Andy Shontz
do not archive
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | For Sale - RMI uEncoder - NEW - Assembled |
Dear Listers,
I am selling a new, never used, fully assembled RMI uEncoder. The uEncoder just
had all of the latest hardware and software updates factory installed including
the new high contrast LCD display supporting Fahrenheit temp readings AND
the new LED fiberoptic backlight. The uEncoder displays airspeed, altitude, fpm,
OAT, and outputs Mode C data for most transponders.
The uEncoder is in new condition with no scratches and all installation material
and manuals. The pictures below are of the actual unit for sale. The table
below lists all of the items included.
I have nearly $1500 invested in this complete system. I will sell it for $1100
plus shipping to anywhere in the world. I can accept Visa/MC. First come, first
served.
Please email me off list at dralle@matronics.com if you are interested.
Matt Dralle
List Admin / RV-4 Builder
1ea - RMI microENCODER ASSEMBLED . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1179.00 . $1179.00
1ea - RMI Factory Upgrade of LCD (Fahrenheit Temp, US Miles),
. . . . . . Fiberoptic LED Backlight, Latest Firmware . . . . . $ 315.00 . $ 315.00
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .$1494.00
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| Subject: | Re: Nuvite Polishing |
Someone has a 601HD painted as "Old Crow", I've see it at Oshkosh a
couple of times.
On May 9, 2008, at 3:07 PM, ashontz wrote:
>
> I want to go with a military theme too. Problem is, the 601 series
> doesn't really lend itself well to that idea. Maybe it's the side by
> side thing.
>
> Polished and with the flaps down and taildragger mode, maybe
> something like this p-51 mustang polish/paint job would look good.
>
> http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/P51-Mustang%20Roush.jpg
>
>
> DaveG601XL wrote:
>> Pat, good point! Actually we did meet briefly at Oshkosh last year
>> one afternoon on the flight line. I believe it was just as the
>> 601XL from the new england area arrived after the air show and we
>> both looked it over for a while. Hopefully my polished XL will be
>> the one with the military theme to it. I am still working on this
>> idea and have a ways to go.
>>
>> Good luck,
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | front fuselage skins |
Just wondered if anyone has had any trouble getting their new prepunched/cut
front fuselage skins to fit right. Mine if I line up the precut spar hole then
the aft rivet line is aft of the rear attach plate which has to rivet to the
seat back channel which is forward of the attach plate also the baggage rivet
holes are off. If you get these right the main spar and upright angle rivet
holes are off 10 mm or more. I have measured and measured and I can find nowhere
I'm off. Just thought some others might be having problems with these new
skins. David Coberly
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| Subject: | Re: front fuselage skins |
YES!
I lost a two weeks in construction for the same issue.
Contact me off list at cndmovn@gmail.com and I will tell you what they told
me.
Cheers
Paul
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:27 PM, <Davcoberly@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Just wondered if anyone has had any trouble getting their new
> prepunched/cut front fuselage skins to fit right. Mine if I line up the
> precut spar hole then the aft rivet line is aft of the rear attach plate
> which has to rivet to the seat back channel which is forward of the attach
> plate also the baggage rivet holes are off. If you get these right the main
> spar and upright angle rivet holes are off 10 mm or more. I have measured
> and measured and I can find nowhere I'm off. Just thought some others might
> be having problems with these new skins. David Coberly
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: front fuselage skins |
Why not post it Zenith's response here?? I wrestled with the same problem but
eventually made it all work
Larry Whitlow
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Nuvite Polishing |
Awesome, love it!
bryanmmartin wrote:
> Someone has a 601HD painted as "Old Crow", I've see it at Oshkosh a
> couple of times.
>
> On May 9, 2008, at 3:07 PM, ashontz wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > I want to go with a military theme too. Problem is, the 601 series
> > doesn't really lend itself well to that idea. Maybe it's the side by
> > side thing.
> >
> > Polished and with the flaps down and taildragger mode, maybe
> > something like this p-51 mustang polish/paint job would look good.
> >
> > http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/P51-Mustang%20Roush.jpg
> >
> >
> > DaveG601XL wrote:
> > > Pat, good point! Actually we did meet briefly at Oshkosh last year
> > > one afternoon on the flight line. I believe it was just as the
> > > 601XL from the new england area arrived after the air show and we
> > > both looked it over for a while. Hopefully my polished XL will be
> > > the one with the military theme to it. I am still working on this
> > > idea and have a ways to go.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
--------
Andy Shontz
do not archive
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Right wing completed |
Hello All,
I am plans building the 601xl wings and have just completed my
first (right) wing after starting on the wing with the rib form
blocks on 10/22/06. Plans building takes it's time but I have
learned a lot and except for the welding of the tanks and the
fiberglass wing tips made all parts myself.
The resulting right wing has the aileron with trim attached but
the flap has been removed. Further on the wing has a tip light
and strobe (no electronics), landings lights and the heated
AOA/Pitot tube. Internal surfaces have been treated (especially
the contact surfaces) with ZnCr. The total assembly weighted in
at 39.0 kg (or 86.0 lbs).
- Maarten, San Antonio TX
601xl plans building wings
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| Subject: | Re: Right wing completed |
Maarten, just wondering, did you install trim, lights, pitot etc. on the right
wing for weight distribution purposes?
do not archive
Terry Turnquist
601 XL-Plans
Hello All,
I am plans building the 601xl wings and have just completed my
first (right) wing after starting on the wing with the rib form
blocks on 10/22/06. Plans building takes it's time but I have
learned a lot and except for the welding of the tanks and the
fiberglass wing tips made all parts myself.
The resulting right wing has the aileron with trim attached but
the flap has been removed. Further on the wing has a tip light
and strobe (no electronics), landings lights and the heated
AOA/Pitot tube. Internal surfaces have been treated (especially
the contact surfaces) with ZnCr. The total assembly weighted in
at 39.0 kg (or 86.0 lbs).
- Maarten, San Antonio TX
601xl plans building wings
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