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1. 01:28 AM - Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? (heisan)
2. 07:12 AM - Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? (Gig Giacona)
3. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? (LarryMcFarland)
4. 09:34 AM - Re: UPS ()
5. 11:31 AM - Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? (heisan)
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? |
So it seems no one has actually tried it... I was hoping it would work, because
I have an opportunity to get a 2200 engine at a good price. I know they work
OK in an HD model, and I was hoping the lower drag of the HDS model would make
it a more practical engine option.
Oh well - have to hunt for another good value engine.
;-)
Justin
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? |
It's not that they won't work in the HDS but since you said you were based at 6K
feet you need the additional power.
heisan wrote:
> So it seems no one has actually tried it... I was hoping it would work, because
I have an opportunity to get a 2200 engine at a good price. I know they work
OK in an HD model, and I was hoping the lower drag of the HDS model would make
it a more practical engine option.
>
> Oh well - have to hunt for another good value engine.
>
> ;-)
>
> Justin
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? |
Justin,
I'd like to chime in again. I failed to make the point that the HD has
considerably more lift than the HDS. Though the HDS has a higher speed,
the HDS climb cannot begin to keep up with the HD. At your altitude,
I'd think you'd be much better off going with the HD. With the HDS
you'd need
to either reduce payload or decrease your pitch to climb and this will
negate the higher speed you see in the HDS. If I lived at 6000 ft, I'd
sell my
HDS wings and replace them with HD wings in a heartbeat. I don't think
the Jab 2200 would be a good engine for that altitude in any case.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Gig Giacona wrote:
>
> It's not that they won't work in the HDS but since you said you were based at
6K feet you need the additional power.
>
>
> heisan wrote:
>
>> So it seems no one has actually tried it... I was hoping it would work, because
I have an opportunity to get a 2200 engine at a good price. I know they work
OK in an HD model, and I was hoping the lower drag of the HDS model would
make it a more practical engine option.
>>
>> Oh well - have to hunt for another good value engine.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Justin
>>
>
>
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> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184180#184180
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>
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OOOOOLLLDD!!! Very old. Attributed at various times to USAF,several US
commercial airlines, and Quantas. Go to your room. Botter yet, go rivet
something.
Paul Rodriguez
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: Zenith601-List: UPS
UPS Air Cargo
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search
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? |
larry(at)macsmachine.com wrote:
> Justin,
> I'd like to chime in again. I failed to make the point that the HD has
> considerably more lift than the HDS. Though the HDS has a higher speed,
> the HDS climb cannot begin to keep up with the HD. At your altitude,
> I'd think you'd be much better off going with the HD. With the HDS
> you'd need
> to either reduce payload or decrease your pitch to climb and this will
> negate the higher speed you see in the HDS. If I lived at 6000 ft, I'd
> sell my
> HDS wings and replace them with HD wings in a heartbeat. I don't think
> the Jab 2200 would be a good engine for that altitude in any case.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Airfield altitude is 4500', but typical daytime temps put the DA at 6000'+ (hits
8000' on a summer day).
An 80hp Jabiru SP fully loaded at 550kg takes off in around 800m, climbs at 300-500fpm
at 8000' DA. Cruise power will give you 90KIAS, or just over 105KTAS at
10500'.
So, the 80hp Jabiru motor does work fine up here. The only problem is that I don't
know how the drag of the HDS compares to the Jabiru SP.
Anyway - I am looking around for a better engine - hopefully I will be able to
find something at 100hp+ that I can afford ;-) .
Thanks for all the feedback!
Justin
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