---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/31/08: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:58 AM - I have had it with the armchair engineers... (AZFlyer) 2. 04:01 PM - Re: I have had it with the armchair engineers... (Jeff) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:58 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: I have had it with the armchair engineers... From: "AZFlyer" List, I use to look forward to reading how different people were addressing different problems of building, but now this group has several detractors bound and determine to undermine any confidence in our building, our kits, the plane design, the company or our flying skills. I tend to believe the builder that suggested, just maybe, some competitors have infiltrated our forum in order to discredit Zenith, Chris or whatever. I really don't give a rats behind what happened to an aircraft a year ago, in a different country, with different laws , different builders, etc. Somebody please ask Matt to start a forum entitled "BS for amateurs. Knock off the speculation and get back to building. If your worried about the proven 601XL, build something else! Blue skies and happy landings... Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=185635#185635 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:33 PM PST US From: "Jeff " Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: I have had it with the armchair engineers... I tend to believe the builder that suggested, just maybe, some competitors have infiltrated our forum in order to discredit Zenith, Chris or whatever. I really don't give a rats behind what happened to an aircraft a year ago, in a different country, with different laws , different builders, etc. Somebody please ask Matt to start a forum entitled "BS for amateurs. Knock off the speculation and get back to building. If your worried about the proven 601XL, build something else! Mike, I can confirm that there are such folks out there. Last fall when I hosted the Zenith Gathering at Winchester, Virginia, I was treated to a gang of three Zenith competitors that evidently had studied up on everything bad about Zenith aircraft. They spent a lot of time talking about all the problems with Zenith aircraft. Eventually they just went away, but we had to ignore them for quite a while. But they were there, in person, clearly trying to influence the Zenith crowd that Zenith aircraft were dangerous and theirs was better. For my part, splitting up the Zenith list has just added confusion about which is which. I'll have a building related post on replacing the bearings on the old Matco (1999 era) wheels tomorrow! Jeff Davidson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.