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1. 05:04 AM - Re: Tie Down Point (Ianrat)
2. 06:49 AM - Zodiac aircraft type ID (Jay Maynard)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: Tie Down Point (w8n2bup)
4. 08:10 AM - Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID ()
5. 08:15 AM - Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID (nyterminat@aol.com)
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID (Gig Giacona)
7. 08:18 AM - Re: Tie Down Point (Gig Giacona)
8. 08:26 AM - Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID (Paul Mulwitz)
9. 11:18 AM - Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID (steveadams)
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Point |
austria your idea looks good. I think that i will look into it.
Thank you
Ianrat
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| Subject: | Zodiac aircraft type ID |
The official ICAO aircraft type ID for the 601 is CH60. That's what I've
been telling ATC, and more than once they've heard that and thought of the
military helicopter with that designator. Any suggestions on how to
disambiguate the two?
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Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Point |
Roger at Zenith, has noted this before and said you can move it up one hole and
then drill out three holes (every other) and put in 3/8 bolts and lock nuts.
I chose to do this also because I had to put a spacer in to bring the tie down
even with the precut slot and the rivets would not have been long enough.Also,
these three bolts are stronger than all the rivets would have been.
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| Subject: | Zodiac aircraft type ID |
This is an interesting question. I'm training in a Tecnam Echo Super.
My instructor just has me use "light sport". The reasoning is that what
the controllers really want to know is the plane's capabilities and by
indicating it's an LSA you are covered. I guess it's sort of like when
the big boys use "heavy". Communications is the key, and, unlike
controllers who are required to use specific phaseology, pilots can say
whatever they like. I'm sure interested in other opinions.
Ron
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Subject: Zenith601-List: Zodiac aircraft type ID
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
<jmaynard@conmicro.com>
The official ICAO aircraft type ID for the 601 is CH60. That's what I've
been telling ATC, and more than once they've heard that and thought of
the
military helicopter with that designator. Any suggestions on how to
disambiguate the two?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID |
"Experimental CH60" or "Zenith CH60"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
Sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 9:48 am
Subject: Zenith601-List: Zodiac aircraft type ID
The official ICAO aircraft type ID for the 601 is CH60. That's what I've
been telling ATC, and more than once they've heard that and thought of the
military helicopter with that designator. Any suggestions on how to
disambiguate the two?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID |
Nope no suggestion at all. They are the ones in the wrong and all you can do is
suggest that they check their ICAO Doc 8643 - Edition 36 again because CH60 is
correct. H60 is a Blackhawk and its variants so they may not be hearing the
"C."
If they tell you to Hover hold somewhere just fly a really tight circle or tell
them, "Sorry, I'm a fixed wing."
It could be worse. The designator for the 640 is CH64. They probably think those
guys are flying AH-64 Apaches.
jmaynard wrote:
> The official ICAO aircraft type ID for the 601 is CH60. That's what I've
> been telling ATC, and more than once they've heard that and thought of the
> military helicopter with that designator. Any suggestions on how to
> disambiguate the two?
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Down Point |
Precut slot for the tie-down. Really? Boy, you QBK guys have it easy. :)
w8n2bup wrote:
> Roger at Zenith, has noted this before and said you can move it up one hole and
then drill out three holes (every other) and put in 3/8 bolts and lock nuts.
I chose to do this also because I had to put a spacer in to bring the tie down
even with the precut slot and the rivets would not have been long enough.Also,
these three bolts are stronger than all the rivets would have been.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID |
How about "Zodiac" ?
At 06:48 AM 6/18/2008, you wrote:
>The official ICAO aircraft type ID for the 601 is CH60. That's what I've
>been telling ATC, and more than once they've heard that and thought of the
>military helicopter with that designator. Any suggestions on how to
>disambiguate the two?
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac aircraft type ID |
I used to file as CH64, but I was constantly having to tell ATC I was a fixed wing
Zodiac, not a helicopter, so I gave up. ATC would say to other aircraft "traffic
12 o'clock, an Apache at 8000" and I would think, cool, I wonder if it's
close by and then wonder why an Apache is flying around at 8000 ft. Then ATC
would point out the other traffic to me and I would put 2 and 2 together and
realize I was the Apache. Now I just use the generic "HXB" as a designator and
identify myself as "experimental" to ATC to make things easier. Flying a sLSA,
I don't know if you have any other option for a designator when filing a flight
plan.
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