---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/26/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - new video's on website (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 2. 01:29 AM - 601 FWF, Jabiru 3300, prop, spinner and seats for sale (Craig Payne) 3. 04:07 AM - Re: Problem Solving Ideas (ashontz) 4. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! (Gary Gower) 5. 11:15 AM - Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! (Gig Giacona) 6. 04:37 PM - nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? (w8n2bup) 7. 05:33 PM - Re: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? (Gig Giacona) 8. 05:34 PM - Re: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? (Paul Mulwitz) 9. 05:44 PM - Re: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? (Bryan Martin) 10. 06:49 PM - Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! (jackandval) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:56 AM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Zenith601-List: new video's on website Hi all, I just put up a few video's on the web site of our journey from Fl. to KY. I'm not sure if the 56 K guys will have any problems but I shrank them down as small as I could for you guys so let me know if it is ok or if I need to put a link to them one by one. Cable shouldn't be an issue. They are on the home page. _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com) Jeff 601XL/Corvair Kit Built _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com) _www.project601xl.com_ (http://www.project601xl.com) 502-644-8123 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:58 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Zenith601-List: 601 FWF, Jabiru 3300, prop, spinner and seats for sale In addition to my 601XL QBK I've also listed the following components of my XL project on Barnstormers: ZENITH 601XL QUICK BUILD KIT, $19,000 NEW JABIRU 3300 ENGINE, $16,000 FWF FOR ZENITH 601/JABIRU 3300, $3,300 SENSENICH COMPOSITE PROP WITH POLISHED ALUMINUM SPINNER FOR JABIRU, $1,900 SKYSHOP LEATHER SEATS AND INTERIOR FOR ZENITH 601XL, $1,000 A member of this list has already said he wants to buy the Jabiru 3300 but I'll start a waiting list in case the deal falls through. Follow the link below to the ad for the QBK and click on "Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser" to view the other ads. http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=251268 AOL users, use this link: http://www.barnstor mers.com/listing.php?id=251268 On the 701 front my refurbished Rotax 912ULS arrived back from Leading Edge Airfoils. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Problem Solving Ideas From: "ashontz" I like it Ron. More things I can now do with my lathe. -------- Andy Shontz do not archive CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189892#189892 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:47 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! Hello Jack,-- - Please specify WHERE AND WHEN--you read this...- In this list we like FACTS...- - We like the news like this:- I- read in this magazine (well know aviati on magazine)- in this date or in this web page.---- Then signed b y Jack (what ever) - Saludos Gary Gower. Flying from Chapala, Mexico. Do not archive. --- On Wed, 6/25/08, jackandval wrote: From: jackandval Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! They went under about a month or two ago. I read that it was 4/23/08. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189850#189850 ============0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! From: "Gig Giacona" I hadn't heard about it but I just a minute ago called the number listed on their web site, (423) 267-3311, and a phone company recording says "The number you have called has been temporarily disconnected." Not proof but not good news. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189937#189937 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:00 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? From: "w8n2bup" I'm certain this has been discussed but I could not find in archives. (Maybe someone can point me to one) I found that my 601 kit does not have enough 16 guage wire so I was about to call Wickes to order some when it occurred to me that the strobe wire, but maybe not the nav, might need to be shielded wire. My strobe unit is out at the wing tip. I was going to use the kit supplied white 16 guage wire but I don't think it has shielding?. Is there any back noise generated down the power wire for the strobe unit or will any noise stay at the wing tip? For the nav light, I thought I would order unshielded red wire for the left wing and green for the right just to make wiring easy at the instrument pannel. Wickes ,however, does not have green but my local hardware has auto grade wire that is green.... though I'm not certain I can use this in a plane. Any thoughts? Thanks Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189994#189994 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? From: "Gig Giacona" The noise should stay out there in the wing and not be a problem. BTW. I used to have all these great ideas about different colors of wires. That was until the last few weeks when I started to realize just how much wire is in a 601XL. w8n2bup wrote: > I'm certain this has been discussed but I could not find in archives. (Maybe someone can point me to one) I found that my 601 kit does not have enough 16 guage wire so I was about to call Wickes to order some when it occurred to me that the strobe wire, but maybe not the nav, might need to be shielded wire. My strobe unit is out at the wing tip. I was going to use the kit supplied white 16 guage wire but I don't think it has shielding?. Is there any back noise generated down the power wire for the strobe unit or will any noise stay at the wing tip? For the nav light, I thought I would order unshielded red wire for the left wing and green for the right just to make wiring easy at the instrument pannel. Wickes ,however, does not have green but my local hardware has auto grade wire that is green.... though I'm not certain I can use this in a plane. Any thoughts? Thanks -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190002#190002 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:15 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? I'd recommend staying with the aircraft grade Tefzel insulated wire. That is more important than the color of the insulation. I'd also recommend unshielded wire for installation of strobe with the flash unit in the wing tip. The long power lead shouldn't see much noise from the flasher power supply, and you can twist the wires from the supply to the strobe tube to reduce noise. All of that stuff is in an aluminum grounded box because of its location. Good luck, Paul At 04:36 PM 6/26/2008, you wrote: >I'm certain this has been discussed but I could not find in >archives. (Maybe someone can point me to one) I found that my 601 >kit does not have enough 16 guage wire so I was about to call Wickes >to order some when it occurred to me that the strobe wire, but maybe >not the nav, might need to be shielded wire. My strobe unit is out >at the wing tip. I was going to use the kit supplied white 16 guage >wire but I don't think it has shielding?. Is there any back noise >generated down the power wire for the strobe unit or will any noise >stay at the wing tip? For the nav light, I thought I would order >unshielded red wire for the left wing and green for the right just >to make wiring easy at the instrument pannel. Wickes ,however, does >not have green but my local hardware has auto grade wire that is >green.... though I'm not certain I can use this in a plane. Any >thoughts? Thanks > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:04 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: nav/strobe wiring...shielded or not? I have my strobe power supplies mounted under the seats in the cabin. The 12 volt wire is unshielded and the high voltage wire leading to the strobe heads is shielded. I also used unshielded wire for the nav lights. I can hear some strobe noise if I turn the intercom volume way up but it is not noticeable at normal volume. I used shielded cable for all of my audio circuits with the shields all grounded at only one end at the audio panel. I would be reluctant to use automotive wire anywhere in the cabin. When that stuff overheats, it can catch fire and give off some nasty fumes. B and C specialty products carries 16 gauge aircraft wire in red, blue, black and white. http://www.bandc.biz/parts.html They also carry clear heat shrink to put over wire labels. I made wire labels on my computer printer and attached them to my wires under clear heat shrink at each end to keep stuff sorted out. I also used various colored Sharpie markers to help keep track of wires. The ink tends to rub off fairly easily but it works well enough. > > > > I'm certain this has been discussed but I could not find in > archives. (Maybe someone can point me to one) I found that my 601 > kit does not have enough 16 guage wire so I was about to call Wickes > to order some when it occurred to me that the strobe wire, but maybe > not the nav, might need to be shielded wire. My strobe unit is out > at the wing tip. I was going to use the kit supplied white 16 guage > wire but I don't think it has shielding?. Is there any back noise > generated down the power wire for the strobe unit or will any noise > stay at the wing tip? For the nav light, I thought I would order > unshielded red wire for the left wing and green for the right just > to make wiring easy at the instrument pannel. Wickes ,however, does > not have green but my local hardware has auto grade wire that is > green.... though I'm not certain I can use this in a plane. Any > thoughts? Thanks > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: For Sale - Navaid AP-1 Autopilot - New! From: "jackandval" I personally went to there shop today since I had to go to Chattanooga, tn. today. They are OUT of Business. 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