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1. 05:24 AM - Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal (DaveG601XL)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? (XIUYAN1)
3. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal (Bryan Martin)
4. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal (Carlos Sa)
5. 02:53 PM - New List (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
6. 03:00 PM - Re: New List (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
7. 03:23 PM - 601XL O-200 Prop (floyd wilkes)
8. 03:57 PM - Re: 601XL O-200 Prop (Paul Mulwitz)
9. 05:07 PM - Re: 601XL O-200 Prop (Jay Maynard)
10. 05:31 PM - Re: 601XL O-200 Prop (Floyd)
11. 07:06 PM - Re: 601XL O-200 Prop (Jay Maynard)
12. 08:29 PM - Re: 601XL O-200 Prop (Floyd)
13. 08:34 PM - Re: Rear top skin (mfazio)
14. 08:43 PM - Jabiru Cowl question (LHusky@aol.com)
15. 08:55 PM - 1st fly in (LHusky@aol.com)
16. 09:04 PM - Re: Problem Solving Ideas (Ron Lendon)
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal |
Yes, painting it black is certainly an option. Right now my entire forward skin
is painted gray. I guess one thing I did not add to my original post is that
I do have a fit issue with the canopy and the skin down towards the rails.
The canopy does not quite follow the contour here. I told Todd (Todd's Canopies)
about the problem. He cautioned me about using a heat gun or hair dryer to
bend the canopy in due to the possibility of crazing. If I do not decide to
try and heat it, I was going to put some weatherstrip foam to bridge the gap
(about 3/8"). Then I was thinking about putting some sort of rubberized tape
along the entire contact surface covering both the weatherstrip and rubber deposits.
Interestingly enough, the aft canopy seal contacts polished aluminum and the are
no rubber deposits at all.
Thanks,
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David Gallagher
601 XL, working on final assembly.
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac HDS on a Jabiru 2200 engine? |
I also encountered the same problem, although with the help of many people.
But I do not always feel satisfied.
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal |
I have polished aluminum front and rear and the seal leaves no marks.
Maybe the rubber is sticks to the paint more than bare aluminum.
On Jun 28, 2008, at 8:23 AM, DaveG601XL wrote:
>
> Interestingly enough, the aft canopy seal contacts polished aluminum
> and the are no rubber deposits at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Canopy Rubber Seal |
How 'bout rubbing talcum powder on the seal?
Carlos
2008/6/28 Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>:
> bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>
> I have polished aluminum front and rear and the seal leaves no marks. Maybe
> the rubber is sticks to the paint more than bare aluminum.
>
> On Jun 28, 2008, at 8:23 AM, DaveG601XL wrote:
>
>
>> Interestingly enough, the aft canopy seal contacts polished aluminum and
>> the are no rubber deposits at all.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | 601XL O-200 Prop |
I would like to know what prop you are using with the O-200 engine.
I have the Sensenich W68ZK-57G which I was told is what AMD puts on the factory
plane. I am not getting the proper RPM with it.
Wondering if I have wrong prop or an engine problem.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL O-200
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL O-200 Prop |
Hi Floyd,
I am no prop expert, but the one used on the Jabiru in the FWF from
Pete is the Sensenich W64ZK-49. This is 4 inches shorter and has a
pitch 8 inches smaller. Considering the engine has 30 percent more
horsepower than the O-200, it sounds like you might have the wrong
one. One issue to consider is the Jabiru turns more RPMs than the
Continental so that might make a difference.
Culver has a a nice prop calculator online at
http://www.culverprops.com/pitchselection.htm. You might try it to
see what prop you should be using for your engine and speed.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
do not archive
At 03:22 PM 6/28/2008, you wrote:
>I have the Sensenich W68ZK-57G which I was told is what AMD puts on
>the factory plane. I am not getting the proper RPM with it.
>Wondering if I have wrong prop or an engine problem.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL O-200 Prop |
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 03:22:59PM -0700, floyd wilkes wrote:
> I would like to know what prop you are using with the O-200 engine. I have
> the Sensenich W68ZK-57G which I was told is what AMD puts on the factory
> plane. I am not getting the proper RPM with it. Wondering if I have wrong
> prop or an engine problem.
Yes, tha W68ZK-57G is what's on my Zodiac. What kind of RPM are you seeing?
I'm not having trouble getting up above 2600 in cruise flight at full
throttle. I haven't paid attention to what it is on the takeoff roll,
though; if you'd like, and I manage to commit aviation tomorrow morning,
I'll take a look.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL O-200 Prop |
Static rpm is about 2240. In flight it will not go above 2400 in level
flight. It took a dive to hit 2700.
My rate of climb tests today maxed out at 520 ft/min.
Guess I better check out the motor. It is 0 SMOH and possibly could have a
problem.
Floyd Wilkes
601XL O-200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Maynard" <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 601XL O-200 Prop
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 03:22:59PM -0700, floyd wilkes wrote:
>> I would like to know what prop you are using with the O-200 engine. I
>> have
>> the Sensenich W68ZK-57G which I was told is what AMD puts on the factory
>> plane. I am not getting the proper RPM with it. Wondering if I have
>> wrong
>> prop or an engine problem.
>
> Yes, tha W68ZK-57G is what's on my Zodiac. What kind of RPM are you
> seeing?
> I'm not having trouble getting up above 2600 in cruise flight at full
> throttle. I haven't paid attention to what it is on the takeoff roll,
> though; if you'd like, and I manage to commit aviation tomorrow morning,
> I'll take a look.
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL O-200 Prop |
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 07:31:00PM -0500, Floyd wrote:
> Static rpm is about 2240.
Dumb question: How did you test this? Full power, on the ground, brakes
locked?
> In flight it will not go above 2400 in level flight. It took a dive to
> hit 2700. My rate of climb tests today maxed out at 520 ft/min.
I cruise at 2550 with no trouble at all, and that's throttled back a little.
I also get 800-1000 FPM climb right after takeoff solo with full fuel.
> Guess I better check out the motor. It is 0 SMOH and possibly could have a
> problem.
Yeah, this seems like something that needs checking. I couldn't begin to
tell you what to look at, though.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL O-200 Prop |
Yes, static test is full throttle holding the brakes.
Thanks for your information. I will check the timing of the engine. With a
new overhaul, it is possible they have the valve timing off. Will check
that.
Floyd Wilkes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Maynard" <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: 601XL O-200 Prop
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 07:31:00PM -0500, Floyd wrote:
>> Static rpm is about 2240.
>
> Dumb question: How did you test this? Full power, on the ground, brakes
> locked?
>
>> In flight it will not go above 2400 in level flight. It took a dive to
>> hit 2700. My rate of climb tests today maxed out at 520 ft/min.
>
> I cruise at 2550 with no trouble at all, and that's throttled back a
> little.
> I also get 800-1000 FPM climb right after takeoff solo with full fuel.
>
>> Guess I better check out the motor. It is 0 SMOH and possibly could have
>> a
>> problem.
>
> Yeah, this seems like something that needs checking. I couldn't begin to
> tell you what to look at, though.
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rear top skin |
Does temperature have anything to do with the "pucker"? If I drill and rivet while
the material is cold will it pucker when it warms up?
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| Subject: | Jabiru Cowl question |
If there is someone who has not installed their Jabiru 3300 Cowl on their
plane yet, could you give me some basic measurements. Width, length before
trimming, height, etc. Also, would you measure the measurements from the inside
if the cowl. I know the front is much narrower. What is the width at the
very front.
Thank you,
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
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Well, today I flew a Cessna 172 about 190 miles south to Grants Pass, Oregon
and attended my first Fly-In. I specifically went because I knew there
would be 2 601's there. I met Ron Asbill and his XL with a Jabiru in it. He
answered a lot of questions I had. The second plane was an HD. Both were very
nice planes. This was another completion of a dream of mine. I have always
wanted to FLY to a FLY-IN and it was great! The air was really smooth. I
wanted to go home via the Oregon coast, but when I got halfway there, I listed
to the ASOS and it reported a 2,000 ceiling. I was at 5500 and could not see
nothing below, so I headed home. It was great flying over my old
neighborhoods and places where I grew up. I had a blast. With that part out
of the
way, the next part of the dream is to fly my own plane! It will be much
cheaper than renting a Cessna! It was over 100 degree's here today and the density
altitude was crazy for Oregon! I really expected a bumpy ride, but it was
like glass once you got above 2500 feet. If your working on your license.
Don't give up! It is so worth it!!! I have put in 20 hours this month
alone!!!! I have to stop and pour the money into my little bird! It was my
longest cross country yet. 4.5 hours and I a tired! Excitement does that to
you!
Everybody keep building, training and flying!
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Problem Solving Ideas |
You might try this method for removing rivets.
What I do before removing the rivet head is use a rivet stem, ( have a lot of them)
and tap it down into the center to push the stem away from the head. Sometimes
it pushes right through. Grind flat the ends of the pull off stem and
just hold it in the center of the rivet head and tap on it with a small hammer.
Once the center stem is below the sheet metal surface, so the drill tip won't
touch it, it is safe to drill. I only drill till the head comes free, then
I use a drift or pliers on the back side to take the rest of the rivet out of
the hole. I have had some luck also just using my automatic center punch and
a backing block with hole to knock them out once the head is removed.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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