---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/02/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 AM - Website update (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 2. 06:05 AM - Stall Warner (countzero) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: Stall Warner (Jay Maynard) 4. 08:16 AM - Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available (Gig Giacona) 5. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available (Jon Croke) 6. 10:38 AM - Re: Rust removal from Core Engine () 7. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available (Gary Gower) 8. 11:56 AM - Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available (Gig Giacona) 9. 12:56 PM - Re: Stall Warner (Bryan Martin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:23 AM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Zenith601-List: Website update Hey everyone I just consolidated a lot of the web site and got in some new products in like aluminum and stainless intakes, Starters, and pulleys. Check it out at _http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Aerolite_s_Products.php_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Aerolite_s_Products.php) I will be getting more products in this week and I have almost finished my test stand and will post some pics of it on my web site. Jeff _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com) 502-644-8123 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:55 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Stall Warner From: "countzero" Hi, Has anyone fitted a Reddish or ACI stall warner in their 601, I have the LR tanks option and was wondering if there is space to fit a stall warner in the small gap between the tank and the LE skin. Does it matter how far outboard on the LE the stall warner is? Or has anyone fitted any vane type stall warner in the leading edge with good results. Rob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190861#190861 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:13 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Stall Warner On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 06:05:31AM -0700, countzero wrote: > Or has anyone fitted any vane type stall warner in the leading edge with > good results. AMD uses a vane type warning sensor a couple of feet in from the right wingtip on the leading edge. Works fine. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:19 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available From: "Gig Giacona" You keep producing these videos right after I DON'T need them. Thanks for the support. :) Out of nothing but curiosity why did you decide to release them in pretty much reverse the normal building order? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190897#190897 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:05 AM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available > You keep producing these videos right after I DON'T need them. Thanks for the support. :) > > Out of nothing but curiosity why did you decide to release them in pretty much reverse the normal building order? > Hi Gig, I guess... "normal building order" is in the eye of the beholder! I find no prerequisite skills that are gained by building - lets say - a pair of wings or H tail and then finding a place to store and trip over them for months while the fuselage is built. Also, with the fuselage finished first, you have the mounting points in place to confirm the proper fit of the H tail components and wings before riveting... Having said that - I will say that if you are not building from a video or getting help when building, then I would leave the fuselage last at it is clearly the most complex structure of all... but not if you are watching someone else show you which part goes first, what to rivet first, etc. IMO, the challenge with the fuselage is not any tricky riveting, cutting, etc, but rather the sequencing of the build process. That's what Gus' expertise ( www.flywithGus.com ) provided in these fuselage videos. There are many opinions/points of view regarding this topic... I have no problem with any of them... this is just my 2.5 cents! Thanks for asking! Jon http://www.homebuilthelp.com/CH601XL/fuselage2.htm ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:47 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Rust removal from Core Engine Huh? Did I miss something? How much water, at what temperature? How much baking soda? How much electric? What kind of electric? How was i t wired? How long to soak? Etceteraaa, etceteraaa, etceteraaa. This s ounds like one of those neat things to put in the back of my mind for when I'll need it.=0A=0APaul Rodriguez=0A ----- Original Mes sage ----- =0A From: LHusky@aol.com =0A To: corvairengines-list@matronics.com =0A Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:30 PM=0A Subject : Zenith601-List: Rust removal from Core Engine=0A=0A=0A Wel l, I put the rear case into a tub of water and baking soda, with some electric and it removed the rust really well. I was able to disassemb le the piece with ease! It worked so well, that I went down and bough t a 45 gallon tub and just finished hooking everything up. I have 6 e lectrodes in the tub and it is bubbling really good. I will leave it in there overnight and part of the day tomorrow. Then I will see if s he will come apart! I have soaked with oil, beat with a hammer and a 2 X 4 for 2 days and nothing has moved! It is solid. So, I am hoping that this will get everything lose enough for me to disassemble the e ngine. The rear case bolts just had no rust on them, nor did the plat e on the bottom. They came out really easy. The one I had started to remove when it was rusted, had a twist in it, so I am glad I stopped and waited. This engine is the worse of the 2, so if works on this on e, this should work for anyone! I will let you know in a day or so if it worked. Sure beats trying to fill that tub up in oil! =0A =0A Larry Husky =0A Madras, Oregon=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A---------------------------------------------------------------- --------------=0A Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos fo r fuel-efficient used cars=0A ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ======================= ===============0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:06 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available My .02 cents - One-reason I also-build first the-fuselage in my projects, is to-ha ve the chance to work in-the instrument and-engine instalation,- mean while-I work in the wings and empenage. - Saludos- Gary Gower. --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Jon Croke wrote: From: Jon Croke Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available > You keep producing these videos right after I DON'T need them. Thanks for the support.-- :) > > Out of nothing but curiosity why did you decide to release them in pretty much reverse the normal building order? > Hi Gig, - I guess... "normal building order" is in the eye of the beholder! - I find no prerequisite skills that are gained by building - lets say - a pa ir of wings or H tail and then finding a place to store and trip over them for months while the fuselage is built.- Also, with the fuselage finished first, you have the mounting points in place to confirm the proper fit of the H tail components and wings before riveting... - Having said that - I will say that if you are not building from a video or getting help when building, then I would leave the fuselage last at it is c learly the most complex structure of all... but not if you are watching som eone else show you which part goes first, what to rivet first, etc.- IMO, the challenge with the fuselage is not any tricky riveting, cutting, etc, but rather the sequencing of the build process.- That's what Gus' experti se (-www.flywithGus.com ) provided in these fuselage videos. - There are many opinions/points of view regarding this topic... I have no pr oblem with any of them... this is just my 2.5 cents! - Thanks for asking!- - Jon http://www.homebuilthelp.com/CH601XL/fuselage2.htm - - =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:01 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL Fuselage DVD Part2 now available From: "Gig Giacona" When I say "normal building order" I mean the order in which the Zenith build manual suggests doing it which is also the order Nick suggested when I asked. I'd also add to that the Zenith manual is much lighter in step-by-step instructions as it gets further along. The tail section shows virtually every step of the process and the wings section assumes you learned a few things along the way. The fuselage section assumes you learned a LOT of things already. This is one of the reasons I posted that I hate that you came out with the videos after I needed them. I really could have used them on the fuselage. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190938#190938 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:05 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Stall Warner In a 601, your stall warning is when you can't see anything but sky out the front half of the canopy. :) > > > Hi, > > Has anyone fitted a Reddish or ACI stall warner in their 601, I have > the LR tanks option and was wondering if there is space to fit a > stall warner in the small gap between the tank and the LE skin. Does > it matter how far outboard on the LE the stall warner is? > > Or has anyone fitted any vane type stall warner in the leading edge > with good results. > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.