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1. 01:27 PM - Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (ashontz)
2. 02:24 PM - Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (Gig Giacona)
3. 02:26 PM - Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (ashontz)
4. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
5. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 05:53 PM - Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (ashontz)
7. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer (Jimbo)
8. 10:08 PM - photos at Osh of new aircraft (Jon Croke)
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because the carb
is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the heat?
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
Mainly it is because cars had some method of carb heat built in and always functioning.
It does still happen from time to time on cars. My first car was a Camero
that had had some "work" done to it. I noticed that when it was cold and
wet that it would run like crap. I took it to the shop and we found some hose
wasn't attached causing carb ice.
ashontz wrote:
> Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because the carb
is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the heat?
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
Interesting. Now that you mention it, I just had my carb off my little old pickup
truck and it has a 12-volt honeycomb carb heater on the base. Didn't really
occur to me til you just mentioned it. Be interesting to check the Nissan manual
and see what triggers the carb heater, or if it's on all the time.
Gig Giacona wrote:
> Mainly it is because cars had some method of carb heat built in and always functioning.
It does still happen from time to time on cars. My first car was a
Camero that had had some "work" done to it. I noticed that when it was cold and
wet that it would run like crap. I took it to the shop and we found some hose
wasn't attached causing carb ice.
>
>
>
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> ashontz wrote:
> > Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because the carb
is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the heat?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
The plate at the bottom of a car carb. is to improve gas mileage by
gasification. When the switch is on power goes to the plate. Jerry of Ga
In a message dated 7/28/2008 5:27:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ashontz@nbme.org writes:
--> Zenith601-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
Interesting. Now that you mention it, I just had my carb off my little old
pickup truck and it has a 12-volt honeycomb carb heater on the base. Didn't
really occur to me til you just mentioned it. Be interesting to check the
Nissan manual and see what triggers the carb heater, or if it's on all the time.
Gig Giacona wrote:
> Mainly it is because cars had some method of carb heat built in and always
functioning. It does still happen from time to time on cars. My first car
was a Camero that had had some "work" done to it. I noticed that when it was
cold and wet that it would run like crap. I took it to the shop and we found
some hose wasn't attached causing carb ice.
>
>
>
>
> ashontz wrote:
> > Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because
the carb is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the
heat?
>
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Andy Shontz
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
Andy,
Have you never heard of a heat riser?? I haven't studied auto engines lately, but
the old guys had a heat riser on the exhaust manifold or between the manifold
and the exhaust pipe.? It was either vacuum actuated or with a bi-metal spring.?
This valve would send hot exhaust gas either to the intake manifold or to
the intake air filter.? Either way, it provided the heat to keep carb ice from
forming.
Jay in Dallas
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-----Original Message-----
From: ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org>
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 4:25 pm
Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer
Interesting. Now that you mention it, I just had my carb off my little old
pickup truck and it has a 12-volt honeycomb carb heater on the base. Didn't
really occur to me til you just mentioned it. Be interesting to check the Nissan
manual and see what triggers the carb heater, or if it's on all the time.
Gig Giacona wrote:
> Mainly it is because cars had some method of carb heat built in and always
functioning. It does still happen from time to time on cars. My first car was a
Camero that had had some "work" done to it. I noticed that when it was cold and
wet that it would run like crap. I took it to the shop and we found some hose
wasn't attached causing carb ice.
>
>
>
>
> ashontz wrote:
> > Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because the
carb is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the heat?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
There's a heat riser there too. This is some sort of plate under the carb between
the carb and the intake manifold.
Yeah, actually the heat riser would be the carb heat in a car. I'm not sure what
function this other thing plays. Maybe helps vaporize the gas more. Just curious.
jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:
> Andy,
>
> Have you never heard of a heat riser? I haven't studied auto engines lately,
but the old guys had a heat riser on the exhaust manifold or between the manifold
and the exhaust pipe. It was either vacuum actuated or with a bi-metal
spring. This valve would send hot exhaust gas either to the intake manifold or
to the intake air filter. Either way, it provided the heat to keep carb ice
from forming.
>
> Jay in Dallas
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Andy Shontz
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| Subject: | Re: Carb Ice: Even in Florida, Even in Summer |
It is a common problem in old, air cooled Volkswagens, the kind with a similar
configuration as the Corvair. Most of those cars have a single carb mounted on
a long intake manifold made of steel tubing. There is a heat riser and, on 1968
and later, thermostat regulated intake air heat. When aftermarket air cleaners
and mufflers are fitted, these heat features are often removed. That is when
they experience carb ice. The stock Corvair had the intake manifolds integral
with the head casting, conducting heat to the carb throttle base. VW's converted
to dual carbs seem to be immune because short cast aluminum manifolds conduct
enough heat.
Just curious, why does this general not happen in cars? Is it because the carb
is mounted on the warm engine whereas and updraft carb is below the heat?
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Andy Shontz
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| Subject: | photos at Osh of new aircraft |
Monday's visit to the Zenith Booth at Osh Airventure and Photos of the
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