---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/11/08: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:48 AM - Re: 601xl whant to fit a 650 ruder (Gig Giacona) 2. 06:55 PM - Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter (deglass1) 3. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter (ZodieRocket) 4. 10:22 PM - Re: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter (Leo Gates) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:23 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601xl whant to fit a 650 ruder From: "Gig Giacona" >From some other posts it looks like the answer is yes. But it isn't just the Rudder the mounting brackets will have to be modified as well. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=197885#197885 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:02 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter From: "deglass1" Zenith builders- With Chris Heintz's letter and this thread of interest on the 601 list, I have been told by my patent attorney that it's OK to talk about this: For a year in my spare time after completing a 601 fuselage as part of a team build, I've been developing and preparing to patent a device to allow in-line setting, adjusting, and easy visual inspection of the tension in cables. The patent covers aircraft and other applications. It takes the permanent place of one turnbuckle in any of the 3 axes, serving that tightening function during installation. It's in testing now for ultimate strength, and will be shopped around soon. Based on the CNC production prototypes, I expect it will cost $60-80 each. The prototype in the attached photo (on its control simulator for test and evaluation) has a nominal setting of 30 lb as shown. It hits a hard stop in the event of a 10% dynamic overload that prohibits flutter, and will maintain at least some cable tension in the event of a component slip of up to an inch that can immediately be detected at visual inspection since the device is in-line all the time. I would appreciate the interest feedback from this small but dedicated group, on both the technical aspects and price points. The aircraft cable version is such a small niche that I'm not sure it's worth chasing. Regards to all - David Glass (fuselage builder, N253DG/601XL/3300A, in airframe integration now) -------- David Glass Forest, VA Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198056#198056 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pair__aircraft_version_with_hardware__179.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tensiometer_on_test_stand_964.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:06 PM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter Please send me a picture Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. president@can-zacaviation.com www.can-zacaviation.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of deglass1 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter Zenith builders- With Chris Heintz's letter and this thread of interest on the 601 list, I have been told by my patent attorney that it's OK to talk about this: For a year in my spare time after completing a 601 fuselage as part of a team build, I've been developing and preparing to patent a device to allow in-line setting, adjusting, and easy visual inspection of the tension in cables. The patent covers aircraft and other applications. It takes the permanent place of one turnbuckle in any of the 3 axes, serving that tightening function during installation. It's in testing now for ultimate strength, and will be shopped around soon. Based on the CNC production prototypes, I expect it will cost $60-80 each. The prototype in the attached photo (on its control simulator for test and evaluation) has a nominal setting of 30 lb as shown. It hits a hard stop in the event of a 10% dynamic overload that prohibits flutter, and will maintain at least some cable tension in the event of a component slip of up to an inch that can immediately be detected at visual inspection since the device is in-line all the time. I would appreciate the interest feedback from this small but dedicated group, on both the technical aspects and price points. The aircraft cable version is such a small niche that I'm not sure it's worth chasing. Regards to all - David Glass (fuselage builder, N253DG/601XL/3300A, in airframe integration now) -------- David Glass Forest, VA Zodiac XL - N253DG reserved On the gear, ready for tail and cables 12/06 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198056#198056 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pair__aircraft_version_with_hardware_ _179.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tensiometer_on_test_stand_964.jpg Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/11/2008 5:50 AM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:09 PM PST US From: Leo Gates Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: Tool sharing -- aircraft cable tension meter David, On my HDS the cable tensioners are made up of two pieces of aluminum angle, a bolt, a flat washer, a nylon insert self locking nut and some safety wire. This is the Chris Heintz design. My DAR thought they were way cool and too bad you can't do that on a certified aircraft. My cables and tensioners are visible with the seat backs pulled forward. You can reach them to give them a good "twang". I would not buy yours. But, then I'm a cheapskate. -- Leo Gates N601Z - CH601HDS TDO Rotax 912UL deglass1 wrote: > > Zenith builders- > With Chris Heintz's letter and this thread of interest on the 601 list, I have been told by my patent attorney that it's OK to talk about this: For a year in my spare time after completing a 601 fuselage as part of a team build, I've been developing and preparing to patent a device to allow in-line setting, adjusting, and easy visual inspection of the tension in cables. 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