Zenith601-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/03/08


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 11:01 AM - Re: Re: 601XL/TD (Gary Gower)
     2. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: 601XL/TD (Steve)
     3. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: 601XL/TD (M.Marcotte)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:01:18 AM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 601XL/TD
          
      Paul:
      -
      Real- Pilots fly- Tail Draggers
      -
      Real Bikers- ride Kick Starters 
      -
      :-)- :-)- :-)- ;-)
      -
      Saludos
      Gary Gower
      PLEASE Do not archive.
      -
      -
      
      --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
      
      From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
      Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD
      
      
      There are some down side issues with tail draggers too.
      
      Tail draggers have much higher accident rates than tricycle gear 
      planes.  The accidents are not usually fatal or even very bad for 
      human injury, but the damage to the planes is expensive.  That means 
      insurance can be a lot higher for tail draggers.
      
      My own (mostly uninformed) opinion is that tail draggers were never 
      really meant for use on runways and particularly not on paved 
      runways.  They are well suited to flying fields that allow takeoff 
      and landing always directly into the wind.
      
      I read an analysis on RV's that changing from a tail dragger to a 
      nose wheel configuration added a mere 2 miles per hour to a 200 mph plane.
      
      Given all that, I feel tricycle gear is a much better choice.
      
      Paul
      XL getting close
      do not archive
      
      
      At 06:41 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
      >I would not expect the interest to be as high in the tail dragger 
      >version, but
      >I suspect that is because most learn to fly now in tricycle gear aircraft.
      >However, tailwheel aircraft usually have less drag and weight less. While
      >that might not be as important in many applications, for LSA, it seems to
      me
      >it should have a much greater level of consideration.
      
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      


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    Time: 11:08:55 AM PST US
    From: "Steve" <steve@data-base-solution.com>
    Subject: Re: 601XL/TD
          
      << Real  Pilots fly  Tail Draggers
      
      
      Real Bikers  ride Kick Starters >>
      
      
      I have air conditioning in my Jeep Wrangler so I better not get sucked in to
      this thread.
      
      
      Do not archive.
      
      
      Steve
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Gower
      Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:59 AM
      Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD
      
      
      Paul:
      
      
      Real  Pilots fly  Tail Draggers
      
      
      Real Bikers  ride Kick Starters 
      
      
      :-)  :-)  :-)  ;-)
      
      
      Saludos
      
      Gary Gower
      
      PLEASE Do not archive.
      
      
      --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
      
      From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
      Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD
      
      
      There are some down side issues with tail draggers too.
      
      Tail draggers have much higher accident rates than tricycle gear 
      planes.  The accidents are not usually fatal or even very bad for 
      human injury, but the damage to the planes is expensive.  That means 
      insurance can be a lot higher for tail draggers.
      
      My own (mostly uninformed) opinion is that tail draggers were never 
      really meant for use on runways and particularly not on paved 
      runways.  They are well suited to flying fields that allow takeoff 
      and landing always directly into the wind.
      
      I read an analysis on RV's that changing from a tail dragger to a 
      nose wheel configuration added a mere 2 miles per hour to a 200 mph plane.
      
      Given all that, I feel tricycle gear is a much better choice.
      
      Paul
      XL getting close
      do not archive
      
      
      At 06:41 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
      >I would not expect the interest to be as high in the tail dragger 
      >version, but
      >I suspect that is because most learn to fly now in tricycle gear aircraft.
      >However, tailwheel aircraft usually have less drag and weight less. While
      >that might not be as important in many applications, for LSA, it seems to
      me
      >it should have a much greater level of consideration.
      
      


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    Time: 04:13:44 PM PST US
    From: "M.Marcotte" <m.l.marcotte@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: 601XL/TD
          
      They also eat runway lights for breakfast... :-)
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gary Gower 
        To: zenith601-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 12:59 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD
      
      
              Paul:
      
              Real  Pilots fly  Tail Draggers
      
              Real Bikers  ride Kick Starters 
      
              :-)  :-)  :-)  ;-)
      
              Saludos
              Gary Gower
              PLEASE Do not archive.
      
      
              --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
      
                From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
                Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD
                To: zenith601-list@matronics.com
                Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 10:02 PM
      
      
      
      There are some down side issues with tail draggers too.
      
      Tail draggers have much higher accident rates than tricycle gear 
      planes.  The accidents are not usually fatal or even very bad for 
      human injury, but the damage to the planes is expensive.  That means 
      insurance can be a lot higher for tail draggers.
      
      My own (mostly uninformed) opinion is that tail draggers were never 
      really meant for use on runways and particularly not on paved 
      runways.  They are well suited to flying fields that allow takeoff 
      and landing always directly into the wind.
      
      I read an analysis on RV's that changing from a tail dragger to a 
      nose wheel configuration added a mere 2 miles per hour to a 200 mph 
      plane.
      
      Given all that, I feel tricycle gear is a much better choice.
      
      Paul
      XL getting close
      do not archive
      
      
      At 06:41 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
      >I would not expect the interest to be as high in the tail dragger 
      >version, but
      >I suspect that is because most learn to fly now in tricycle gear 
      aircraft.
      >However, tailwheel aircraft usually have less drag and weight less. 
      While
      >that might not be as important in many applications, for LSA, it seems 
      to
      me
      >it should have a much greater level of consideration.
      
      
             
      
      
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