---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith601-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/05/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:35 AM - Re: 601XL/TD (dalemed) 2. 07:46 AM - Re: Re: 601XL/TD (Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet)) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: 601XL/TD (Jimbo) 4. 08:52 AM - Re: 601XL/TD (Gig Giacona) 5. 09:01 AM - Re: 601XL/TD (dalemed) 6. 01:44 PM - Anybody doing the "upgrade"...? (PatrickW) 7. 02:08 PM - Re: Anybody doing the =?UTF-8?Q?=22upgrade=22=2E=2E=2E=3F? () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:36 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD From: "dalemed" Here are my reasons for building the 601XL/TD: 1) I think it looks better 2) I've owned 3 planes, all of which were taildraggers, and I don't want to change now. 3) While I can't quantify it, I'm sure the tailwheel parts weigh less than the nosewheel parts. 4) Less aerodynamic drag. 5) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground when a stout person (such as myself) puts their weight on the step to climb into the plane. 6) I won't have the holes in the firewall for the nosewheel steering rods. 7) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground during a full stall landing. 8) I'm putting a Corvair engine on the front which is heavier than a Rotax or Jabiru. A little more weight in the tail instead of the nose shouldn't hurt. 9) I think it looks better. -------- Dale Flying Cessna 170B Building Zenith 601XL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2745#202745 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:42 AM PST US From: "Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet)" Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD I think you are right. Nosewheels are for sissies ! Eric -------------------------------------------------- From: "dalemed" Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD > > Here are my reasons for building the 601XL/TD: > > 1) I think it looks better > 2) I've owned 3 planes, all of which were taildraggers, and I don't want > to change now. > 3) While I can't quantify it, I'm sure the tailwheel parts weigh less than > the nosewheel parts. > 4) Less aerodynamic drag. > 5) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground when a stout > person (such as myself) puts their weight on the step to climb into the > plane. > 6) I won't have the holes in the firewall for the nosewheel steering rods. > 7) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground during a full > stall landing. > 8) I'm putting a Corvair engine on the front which is heavier than a Rotax > or Jabiru. A little more weight in the tail instead of the nose shouldn't > hurt. > 9) I think it looks better. > > -------- > Dale > Flying Cessna 170B > Building Zenith 601XL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2745#202745 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:05 AM PST US From: Jimbo Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD So are electrical systems. --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet) wrote: From: Eric Tiethoff (HCCNet) Subject: Re: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD I think you are right. Nosewheels are for sissies ! Eric -------------------------------------------------- From: "dalemed" Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD > > Here are my reasons for building the 601XL/TD: > > 1) I think it looks better > 2) I've owned 3 planes, all of which were taildraggers, and I don't want > to change now. > 3) While I can't quantify it, I'm sure the tailwheel parts weigh less than > the nosewheel parts. > 4) Less aerodynamic drag. > 5) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground when a stout > person (such as myself) puts their weight on the step to climb into the > plane. > 6) I won't have the holes in the firewall for the nosewheel steering rods. > 7) I won't have to worry about the tail hitting the ground during a full > stall landing. > 8) I'm putting a Corvair engine on the front which is heavier than a Rotax > or Jabiru. A little more weight in the tail instead of the nose shouldn't > hurt. > 9) I think it looks better. > > -------- > Dale > Flying Cessna 170B > Building Zenith 601XL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2745#202745 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:19 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD From: "Gig Giacona" dalemed wrote: > Here are my reasons for building the 601XL/TD: > > 1) I think it looks better > ... > 9) I think it looks better. 1 & 9 were all the reasons you really needed. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2761#202761 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:29 AM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Re: 601XL/TD From: "dalemed" Gig Giacona wrote: > > > 1 & 9 were all the reasons you really needed. Which is why they framed the rest :) -------- Dale Flying Cessna 170B Building Zenith 601XL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2764#202764 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:35 PM PST US Subject: Zenith601-List: Anybody doing the "upgrade"...? From: "PatrickW" Zenith Builder's Website wrote: > > Existing Zodiac XL builders do not need to update / upgrade their drawings to the Zodiac CH 650. > > However, for those builders who do want to upgrade their drawings to the new Zodiac CH 650 model, they can do so for a limited time. > > Upgrading from the Zodiac XL to the Zodiac CH 650: New drawings, new serial number: Cost $125.00 (the original Zodiac XL serial number needs to be exchanged for a new Zodiac CH 650 serial number). > > Curious if anyone is doing the "limited-time upgrade". How far along are you in construction? Pros/Cons...? - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2804#202804 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:50 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Zenith601-List: Anybody doing the =?UTF-8?Q?=22upgrade=22=2E=2E=2E=3F? I'll probably do it. I like the idea of rollover protection in the canopy as well as the anti-oil canning on the wings. I couldn't care less about the rudder. I'm just doing the wings now, so it's no big deal for me. The downside seems to be less baggage area, but the wife is going to insist on a parachute anyway and it looks to be a cleaner install in the 650. Are the new plans available? I didn't see a way to actually order them on line. Ron DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Zenith601-List: Anybody doing the "upgrade"...? From: "PatrickW" Zenith Builder's Website wrote: > > Existing Zodiac XL builders do not need to update / upgrade their drawings to the Zodiac CH 650. > > However, for those builders who do want to upgrade their drawings to the new Zodiac CH 650 model, they can do so for a limited time. > > Upgrading from the Zodiac XL to the Zodiac CH 650: New drawings, new serial number: Cost $125.00 (the original Zodiac XL serial number needs to be exchanged for a new Zodiac CH 650 serial number). > > Curious if anyone is doing the "limited-time upgrade". How far along are you in construction? Pros/Cons...? - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2804#202804 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith601-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith601-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith601-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith601-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.